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Old 02-22-2010, 12:26 PM
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Exclamation Performance Automotive Warehouse

Anyone here ever shopped there before?

I am curious how good are their engine block kits are. Realized earlier today that I can get the same power/displacement pretty much for a $3,295.00 420W block kit over my other route of custom building from scratch the new ford racing Boss 351 block. To be honest I think I got caught up in the whole "Boss 351" hype and didnt realize that I dont need all that. Same thing with camshafts, was looking for a 6,000 rpm camshaft years ago till I realized why the car kicks out of passing gear at 4500 rpm and cruises the highway at 85-90 at 2500 rpm.

But if anyone has bought from them before let me know what you think of them and if possible if their engine kits are any good. Another question I could put forth is would they be open to subsituting other camshafts (other than the SSI brand) or other piston rings (Total Seal over convential), or heads without going crazy on the price.

I might end up having to go with bigger dished pistons or aluminum heads, Compression is supposed to be 9.5:1 with the 4.040" (0.040" overbore, dunno if that is is even a smart overbore for a engine being used in a street vehicle) bore.

But instead of droning on just need information about PAW and if their engine kits are any good.
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Not that this is much help but I have one of their catalogs from back in 1982 or so when they were Performance Automotive Wholesale. I guess they must be decent or they wouldn't still be around.
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Not that this is much help but I have one of their catalogs from back in 1982 or so when they were Performance Automotive Wholesale. I guess they must be decent or they wouldn't still be around.
That is true, I guess the only thing I can do is take a chance on them. I do like the thought of buying a engine kit that I can put together that is ready to go for the most part in a 420 CID. Only problem is finding an oil pan for my car that will accept a 4.10" stroke. Closest I found was 4" stroke with stock rods. Dont think a 5.956" stock rod would work on a 4" stroke crank when stock crank was 3.50".

Then again I am thinking that 0.10" more stroke on the crank than what the oil pan is designed to handle might be able to be clearanced some.
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I've built 3 of their Ford kit engines. All 3 of them came painted inside with rustoleum red and the quality of the machine work was excellent. No problems on any of them. The 351 cleveland I ordered with another make of cam and pistons. Price was very little more $$$. I would buy another one in a hot second!
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I've built 3 of their Ford kit engines. All 3 of them came painted inside with rustoleum red and the quality of the machine work was excellent. No problems on any of them. The 351 cleveland I ordered with another make of cam and pistons. Price was very little more $$$. I would buy another one in a hot second!
That is great to hear, I already knew about the rustoleum paint on the insides already but its also nice to hear that you can get it with another make of cam and pistons. I dont think I would want 9.5:1 compression with cast iron heads and trying to run 83-86 octane.

On the price being more with the other make of cam and pistons did they charge you the full amount for the cam and pistons and subtracked the cost of the other pistons and camshaft that comes with the kits?
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That is great to hear, I already knew about the rustoleum paint on the insides already but its also nice to hear that you can get it with another make of cam and pistons. I dont think I would want 9.5:1 compression with cast iron heads and trying to run 83-86 octane.

On the price being more with the other make of cam and pistons did they charge you the full amount for the cam and pistons and subtracked the cost of the other pistons and camshaft that comes with the kits?
Yes, they deducted the price of the "kit" parts, and made me a deal on the parts I wanted. The were great to work with also. I built the cleveland for a customers Bronco, and the engine ran awesome! The customer was very happy with it.
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Yes, they deducted the price of the "kit" parts, and made me a deal on the parts I wanted. The were great to work with also. I built the cleveland for a customers Bronco, and the engine ran awesome! The customer was very happy with it.
That is great to hear, it appears that they would be the place to go with for sure then.
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I got the rebuild kit for my 460 in my Bronco and later a carb for it. Everything worked out great. I ordered the kit and it was at my shop with in 5 days.
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do they have a web site? because im looking for a 351w efi stroker kit and i cant find one.
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do they have a web site? because im looking for a 351w efi stroker kit and i cant find one.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but PAW doesnt cover Ford anymore. They also dont cover Chevrolet anymore either. They are a strict Early Hemi Chrysler company now. Didnt get my stuff from them since I was awaiting the engine to finally need to be rebuilt and they changed.

I would check with summit or jegs they have stroker kits to stroke 351W blocks but you would have to have a block and have it bored out. The EFI part can be done easily by just simply going with an EFI compatible camshaft and EFI components.
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they had seperate catalogs for the hemi and the rest rusty unless something has changed since i last bought something from them which was about 5 years ago . and i never had any problems with anything i ever bought from them .nope your right just went and checked and hemi only .......... wonder what happened to change their biz ...............
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they had seperate catalogs for the hemi and the rest rusty unless something has changed since i last bought something from them which was about 5 years ago . and i never had any problems with anything i ever bought from them .nope your right just went and checked and hemi only .......... wonder what happened to change their biz ...............
Dont know, I didnt find out about it till around November when I was going to pick up some of those 351W valve covers styled after the FE covers and said 427 on them. They were the only company I knew that had them but when i went there it said that they only cover Early Hemis now. Oh well no big deal to me, the money I would have spent on that, I can put towards parts for my other projects.
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Another good place to check is Northern Auto Parts, everything in their engine kits is known brands, generally felPro, Clevite bearings and such. The stroker kits are Scat.
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What a bummer..........I've been buying Ford parts from them since they started out as Speed-o-Motive 30 years ago.........I did find they have a ton of Ford and Chevy old stock for cheap here: HOT ROD ENGINE PARTS items - Get great deals on SMALL BLOCK CHEVROLET, 289-302-351W FORD items on eBay Stores!
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