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Old 02-05-2010, 02:29 PM
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Changed oil today and got a big surprise!

57,000 miles and always had oil changed at my local quick lube using rotelle 15w 40w, never over 5,000 miles most of the time 3,000. Wel decided I should start changing it myself drained the oil pan and oil was black I mean really black, is that normal?
Also when I pulled filter I was horrified to see it totally collapsed. Is this normal and it wasn't a Ford filter?
Let it drain for an hour put my new Fomoco valve in and poured 14 quarts in per discussions on here. After starting and running and testing for leaks I shut it down and checked it 30 minutes later and it shows at the full mark is that normal? Now I got to find a parts store that will take the old oil and suggestioins?
 
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:34 PM
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A non-OEM filter that collapses is not surprising to me. Also, oil that is blacker than usual is very likely with a filter that is not filtering.
 
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:51 PM
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Diesel oil will usually be black to a certain extent. I cringe when I hear these stories regarding jiffy lube places. I just had to see what the 'surprise' was when I saw the topic since there shouldn't be any surprise.
But if you aren't used to seeing the color of used diesel oil, it won't look the same as the oil in the family car.
If the truck doesn't get up to temperature and runs cooler most of the time due to shorter trips, this will also make the oil look to be blacker. What could also be the case is you may not have gotten what you paid for in the first place, it may not have been the the correct oil put in your truck. But I think Bismic has nailed it, there was no filteration.
There are alot of variables and unknowns when someone else maintains your vehicle.
 
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:52 PM
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Always, always, always use Ford or Racor oil filters. I don't think alot of people understand just how important this is on the 6.0L.

Oil from diesel engines is generally darker than oil from gas engines.

I normally add enough oil to be mid-way between the min & max marks on the dipstick. You will hear arguments for filling the the mid-point and others that say fill to the full mark. I'm not sure who is right, however filling to the mid-point seems to work for me.

I take my used oil to Tractor Supply Co. I think many of the national auto parts stores will accept used oil (AutoZone, Advanced Auto Parts, etc.). Call around and I'm sure you will find someone to take this off your hands.
 
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:18 PM
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I have taken my used oil to Auto Zone and the last one went to Craigin auto parts. I thing they only accept 5 gallons at one time, so don't save it up too long. I have more trouble getting a sealed drain pan that can hold all that our trucks can!
 
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:29 PM
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I pour my oil into 2 gallon plastic jugs for transportation to TSC. It's much easier that carrying a single container with with up to 15 quarts of oil in it.
 
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motorcraft filters are a must in the 6.0 along with the proper weight oil for your climate and temp. any major parts store should take the oil. they will sell it to oil waste co. for a profit
 
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I'd call your local Ford Dealership. Mine takes used oil, aft and coolant to use in their shop heater(s).
 
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Hauled it to Auto Zone and they seemed happy to get it.
 
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Man sometimes garages make me cringe... No offence to anyone that works at one.
 
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i would highly recommend NOT using a jiffy-lube type place for oil changes.if it's turning black that could be a sign of soot, which usually comes from extended idle time.
 
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I've changed my own oil since my truck was new and it gets kinda dark. My filter hasn't ever been collapsed yet.

 
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Originally Posted by teppler
57,000 miles and always had oil changed at my local quick lube using rotelle 15w 40w, never over 5,000 miles most of the time 3,000. Wel decided I should start changing it myself drained the oil pan and oil was black I mean really black, is that normal?
Also when I pulled filter I was horrified to see it totally collapsed. Is this normal and it wasn't a Ford filter?
Let it drain for an hour put my new Fomoco valve in and poured 14 quarts in per discussions on here. After starting and running and testing for leaks I shut it down and checked it 30 minutes later and it shows at the full mark is that normal? Now I got to find a parts store that will take the old oil and suggestioins?
I have taken my old oil to Checker Auto.
 
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15 quarts is the capacity.
 
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Old 02-05-2010, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark _G
I've changed my own oil since my truck was new and it gets kinda dark. My filter hasn't ever been collapsed yet.

Thats the thing about diesel oil. It is designed to remove and suspend soot. It is not unusual for it to be dark. Now there are varying degrees of color, so everyone should get to know their own particular engine.

One thing is for sure, a collapsed filter WILL produce a DARK oil.
 


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