Modular V10 (6.8l)  

5.4 to v10 swap

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-15-2009, 07:00 PM
green250's Avatar
green250
green250 is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
5.4 to v10 swap

Just swapped out a 2000 5.4 superduty f250 engine for a 2002 6.8 v10.Everything was pretty straight forward except for the belt pulleys.The belt from my 5.4 is too wide for the v10.I ordered an a/c delete pulley for the v10 engine and it has 7 ribs like the 5.4.Is there different size crank dampers and power steering pulleys etc.?Can i swap out the wider 7 rib pulley from my 5.4 alternator and crank damper or not?
Thanks for any advice.
 
  #2  
Old 11-16-2009, 11:31 PM
bill11012's Avatar
bill11012
bill11012 is offline
Modular motor junkie
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 6,190
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
You should be able to swap them ok, look for a part number on them.
Is it the same or different?

If it is the same you are good to go.
 
  #3  
Old 11-17-2009, 11:16 AM
krewat's Avatar
krewat
krewat is offline
Site Administrator
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Long Island USA
Posts: 42,561
Received 298 Likes on 157 Posts
Did that V10 come out of a van?

There are two widths, I think 6 rib, and 8 rib. My V10 has the wider belt, and it's a 2001.

The '99's, I believe, have the 6-rib belt, in the F-series.

I wonder if the vans didn't.
 
  #4  
Old 11-18-2009, 10:55 AM
green250's Avatar
green250
green250 is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The engine came out of a 2002 f250.A friend who works on these told me it shouldnt matter.I just used the 6 rib belt and fired it up.Everything appears to be good and the truck has a ton more power!I ran into a couple different kinks like the fan clutch being different than a 5.4 so i had to buy one from a junkyard.I also needed an intake kit so i just bought a volant instead of a stocker.The other thing i noticed is the alternator is a 2 wire on the v10 so since i had the 5.4 alternator/battery harness i had to use the 5.4 alternator but it bolted right in so no problem.Maybe a year thing instead of a 5.4/v10 thing i dont know.
Thanks for all the help guys!
 
  #5  
Old 11-18-2009, 12:16 PM
krewat's Avatar
krewat
krewat is offline
Site Administrator
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Long Island USA
Posts: 42,561
Received 298 Likes on 157 Posts
Something doesn't make sense. From what I remember, the early '99's in the F-series had the 6-rib belt, while 2000-up definitely had the 8-rib belt.

But, I think the E-series has the 6-rib. Weird. Very weird.
 
  #6  
Old 11-18-2011, 08:05 AM
stern1's Avatar
stern1
stern1 is offline
New User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Can you email me, need to ask you some question about this swap. rubicon1272 at yahoo dot com.
Thanks
Rob
 
  #7  
Old 02-23-2014, 09:37 PM
Mattjcott's Avatar
Mattjcott
Mattjcott is offline
New User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I want to do this swap in my truck. How does the PCM work? Did you need the engine harness from v10 ?
 
  #8  
Old 03-04-2014, 10:53 PM
OSHS's Avatar
OSHS
OSHS is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm curious what all you did with the engine harness, body harness and PCM.
 
  #9  
Old 03-04-2014, 11:03 PM
OSHS's Avatar
OSHS
OSHS is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
To make everything work, that is. Did you simply swap everything over from the donor truck?
 
  #10  
Old 10-30-2019, 05:14 AM
curtdog85's Avatar
curtdog85
curtdog85 is offline
New User
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
V10

I want to do this swap in my truck. How does the PCM work? Did you need the engine harness from v10 ?
Find anything out. Pcm most likely needs swapped?
 
  #11  
Old 10-30-2019, 05:20 AM
curtdog85's Avatar
curtdog85
curtdog85 is offline
New User
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
V10

Why volant intake. What about wiring harness and computer?
Thanks for all the help guys
 
  #12  
Old 10-31-2019, 12:37 PM
Johnny Paycheck's Avatar
Johnny Paycheck
Johnny Paycheck is offline
Laughing Gas
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 789
Received 127 Likes on 111 Posts
Originally Posted by curtdog85
I want to do this swap in my truck. How does the PCM work? Did you need the engine harness from v10 ?
Find anything out. Pcm most likely needs swapped?
Yes. Get a complete engine assembly. Much simpler that way. Computer, too.

This is isn’t like the old days with TBI setups where you swap a chip and a few other bits and the harness is the same.
 
  #13  
Old 11-05-2019, 09:44 AM
curtdog85's Avatar
curtdog85
curtdog85 is offline
New User
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Johnny Paycheck
Yes. Get a complete engine assembly. Much simpler that way. Computer, too.

This is isn’t like the old days with TBI setups where you swap a chip and a few other bits and the harness is the same.
How do you know that ? Same engine with 2 or pistons could send computer out for about 500$ get it programed and tuned

I got the engine some time ago I'm thinking it be best run crank triger and fabricated intake with two 500 carbs
 
  #14  
Old 11-05-2019, 10:00 AM
krewat's Avatar
krewat
krewat is offline
Site Administrator
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Long Island USA
Posts: 42,561
Received 298 Likes on 157 Posts
The engine harness itself will be different between V8 and V10, and the PCM is most certain to be lacking the extra electronics to drive the two extra COPs and injectors.
 
  #15  
Old 11-05-2019, 04:36 PM
rock2610d's Avatar
rock2610d
rock2610d is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 1,574
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 12 Posts
Also consider a V8 fires 4 times per rev. A V10 fires 5 times per rev. Injector and coil timing for all coils and injectors is different. V10 COMPUTER or some very modified version of a V8 pcm will be needed.

V8 motors have weaker transmissions than v10s. Something about clutches and torque converter.
 


Quick Reply: 5.4 to v10 swap



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:42 AM.