EGR Routing on a 74 302-2v?
#1
EGR Routing on a 74 302-2v?
When I had my carb off yesterday cleaning it, I noticed that the EGR routing doesn't seem to tie into the exhaust at all. All it had was a plate that went under the carb that the EGR valve attaches to. The only thing I can figure is that exhaust is routed back through the intake, is gathered in this plate, and admitted into the airstream by the valve.
The problem is that it looks like the "chamber" in the plate that exhaust gases would gather is EXTREMELY corroded, probably from 35 years of caustic exhaust fumes. In fact it has eaten through the top of the plate and a small part directly into the air stream. This makes me think that I've probably got EGR all the time whether I want it or not.
Can anybody confirm my thoughts on how the EGR works?
Eventually I intend to do away with the 2bbl anyway, but I think this might be causing some driveability issues if it is running un-metered EGR all the time. The carb studs are too long to run the carb without this plate, and I don't know that the air cleaner would clear the coil and valvecovers if I did. There also looked like a little spacer on top of the EGR plate, under the carb. I'm thinking I could clean up the engine compartment and get a little bit better performance if I just removed the EGR plate and the spacer, and replaced them both with a single spacer of the appropriate height.
I know lots of 4bbl spacers are out there of nearly any height you would want. Is this 2bbl a standard mounting patern? Anybody done this?
The problem is that it looks like the "chamber" in the plate that exhaust gases would gather is EXTREMELY corroded, probably from 35 years of caustic exhaust fumes. In fact it has eaten through the top of the plate and a small part directly into the air stream. This makes me think that I've probably got EGR all the time whether I want it or not.
Can anybody confirm my thoughts on how the EGR works?
Eventually I intend to do away with the 2bbl anyway, but I think this might be causing some driveability issues if it is running un-metered EGR all the time. The carb studs are too long to run the carb without this plate, and I don't know that the air cleaner would clear the coil and valvecovers if I did. There also looked like a little spacer on top of the EGR plate, under the carb. I'm thinking I could clean up the engine compartment and get a little bit better performance if I just removed the EGR plate and the spacer, and replaced them both with a single spacer of the appropriate height.
I know lots of 4bbl spacers are out there of nearly any height you would want. Is this 2bbl a standard mounting patern? Anybody done this?
#2
Does a 1974 engine have an EGR valve? I thought the smog got started in 1978.
What you might be looking at is the system used to warm up the carb for better gas vaporization during cold starts.
I'd stick with the 2bbl, better gas miliage. If you want a high performance truck, buy one.
Did you rebuild the carb or just spray the outside with cleaner? Rebuilding would be better and allow for adjustments, it would be alot easier starting.
What you might be looking at is the system used to warm up the carb for better gas vaporization during cold starts.
I'd stick with the 2bbl, better gas miliage. If you want a high performance truck, buy one.
Did you rebuild the carb or just spray the outside with cleaner? Rebuilding would be better and allow for adjustments, it would be alot easier starting.
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I'd stick with the 2bbl, better gas miliage. If you want a high performance truck, buy one.
Did you rebuild the carb or just spray the outside with cleaner? Rebuilding would be better and allow for adjustments, it would be alot easier starting.
#4
In fiddling with the idle I ended up pulling the carb and examining the EGR plate closer. It is trashed and could not work the EGR at all. It's also completely plugged up so that it could not be causing a leak. I'll post some pictures later, it's pretty nasty.
If I can come across a spacer, I'll just replace it someday, but it's not critical.
If I can come across a spacer, I'll just replace it someday, but it's not critical.
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I'm running this on a '74 because our provincial government is sending cops with government environment people to car shows and pulling in everyone that's showing their vehicle as they are leaving. They look for the engine block casting number to figure out what year the block is and then look in their books to see what emissions equipment it's supposed to have. Then they compare the engine to the books and start writing out fines for each item missing. If enough are missing, they pull the plates and it's off the road.
They are ruining our hot rod culture.
So that's why I'm doing it, I don't want to be taken off the road or fined.
They are ruining our hot rod culture.
So that's why I'm doing it, I don't want to be taken off the road or fined.
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