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Old 01-12-2009, 09:51 AM
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1988 Ford f250 Loose Steering

My beater hauler with 460 has some scarry loose steering which a new steeriing box did not resolve. There are easily 2" of play.

I am assuming it is the pitman arm but can anyone provide advice to diagnosing? Any hints tips or tricks?

Is there a diagram online somewhere?

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A little play in every joint adds up so check them all including the steering shaft. These trucks never had tight steering like a FWD car so there will always be some play.
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get a helper. do not start the truck. open the hood, and look at the steering column above the rag joint where the column bolts to the steering box. have your helper turn the steering wheel from side to side. see if there is any play in the slip joint where the upper column meets the lower column. there is a spring steel clip, and a Teflon bushing in there keeping the two pieces tight. when the clip breaks, the Teflon bushing will either fall out, or travel up into the upper column until it falls off inside.

this will result in approximately 1/4 turn play in the steering wheel with the engine off, and when driving, it will take you the better part of 2 lanes to go straight.
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So I had a close look this weekend.

Despite have one torn ball joint boot everthing is pretty tight.

The only descernable play was found on the centerlinkage joing (very minor) the Steering column Ujoint (very minor)

And LOADS of play on the box itself.

This box was installed by my mechanic last year. I guess I have one big concern....

Why would a new box (reman unit) need to be adjusted after 5000 miles? Should I adjust it and forget about it?

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In your original post you say that the new box did not tighten the steering so it must have been out of adjustment from the word go.
I would adjust it and see if that works. If it does all well and good.
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Hi Guys,

I went out today to tighten up the box and re-checked the joints. There is a lot of play in the lower of the 2 joints (the majority).

So the question now is. Can these joints be replaced or is their a "linkage shaft" that includes new joints?

Now an embarassing questions. For the life of me I cannot find a PCV valve....despite having a new one in my hand. Anyone point to where it should be?

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Just to re-itterate, There is a plastic collar which covered the bottom joint and masked the real culprit. Seems like the bottom joint (slip joint) has close to 15 to 20 degrees of rotation each way before it causes box to turn.
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are you talking about the slip joint in the steering column above the rag joint??

the PCV should be in one of the valve covers.
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Not sure about terminolgy....found the piece at the online sources

Such as this:

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The biggest culprit is the joint on the right (maybe that is the rag joint)

As for the PCV valve I guess it has been removed? I just have a section of hose that vents to the airbox.

Guys thanks for all your help!

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yes, the one on the right is called a rag joint. it almost looks like someone cut a chunk out of the sidewall of a tire and through bolted it.
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... see if there is any play in the slip joint where the upper column meets the lower column. there is a spring steel clip, and a Teflon bushing in there keeping the two pieces tight. when the clip breaks, the Teflon bushing will either fall out, or travel up into the upper column until it falls off inside.

this will result in approximately 1/4 turn play in the steering wheel with the engine off, and when driving, it will take you the better part of 2 lanes to go straight.
Digging up an old one here but does anyone know if this slip joint teflon bushing is serviceable? I have recently pin pointed this as the cause of my steering play.
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technically, no. but i have replaced 3 of them so far with bushings removed from columns ruined in front end collisions. it takes time and patience to do. usually it takes me 1 1/2 hour to rebuild a column.

if you can find a good column in a junk yard, it is easier to just change the whole column.
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