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Old 09-27-2008, 09:30 PM
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resale after rebates

Question for people with more experience than me. Will the resale values of the 04s-08s go back up some after all the new 08s are gone and the huge rebates aren't there anymore??? I assume the 09s will have rebates, but not at 10k like currently.

I bought my 04 Screw FX4 18 months ago with 22k miles on it for 23k, which I thought was a good deal back then. I now owe about 21k on it and its worth 12k if I was to try and trade it in now.
 
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I think the rebates certainly have an effect on the value of the vehicles, however, I think the price of fuel has a larger effect at this point. The value of economy cars mainly hybrids is as strong as ever. If you intend to keep your truck until it's worn out, then dollar value should be meaningless.

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Old 09-28-2008, 11:29 AM
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The Rebates are killing the resale on these trucks. The 9500 dollar rebate on top of the 30-40% of depreciation once you drive the truck off the lot makes resale half of the original MSPR value at best.

These are not the days to try to sell a truck. You're going to get creamed.
 
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Old 09-28-2008, 02:40 PM
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Shows the actual mark-up on the trucks. They are still making a small profit even @ the giveaway prices. They are going to have to drop the profit margin from here on out because everyone is on to there 200% mark-up game now!!!
 
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It sounds like you paid too much for your truck to begin with. But yes, these high rebates are killing resale at this moment.
 
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Shows the actual mark-up on the trucks. They are still making a small profit even @ the giveaway prices. They are going to have to drop the profit margin from here on out because everyone is on to there 200% mark-up game now!!!

I guess I'm confused...who has a 200% markup??? Could you please explain.
 
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Old 09-30-2008, 06:23 PM
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Don't count on the values going up in 09. Those trucks sold with the huge incentives are not worth as much on trade, so the older ones are even less.
 
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Old 09-30-2008, 08:31 PM
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Supply and demand...

Regardless of the history of rebates, the ultimate resale price on any vehicle (or any object) is based entirely on supply and demand. Ford pushed somewhere between 750k and a million F150's out the door for years; most of them are still out there.

If, say, 50% of the people who bought these trucks do not want them at this time because of the gas price situation and because they really *can* get by with something smaller, the market ends up with a glut. There are also '06-'08 trucks coming off lease and flooding the market as well. This is a LOT of trucks. I honestly think if Ford took a year or two off from building trucks at all, THAT would raise the market on used ones.

Doesn't look good for the resale on big pickups; the way to win in this game is to want and need a big pickup, recent and with low miles. On a relative basis, this is the best time in history to be looking for something like that. As a sharp contrast, a 2007 Honda Civic, which sold for about $18k new (with a sticker of 18.5k), is selling on dealer lots for about $16-17k. Really.

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I bought my '05 FX4 new for 27,000, down from 35,000 more than 3 years ago. I'm seeing trucks like mine on car lots looking like they are almost new for around 16,000. This is a buyers market right now, but I don't belive it is a sellers market for trucks.
 
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I guess I'm confused...who has a 200% markup??? Could you please explain.
100%, typo. If you can get a truck for 1/2 price and they are making money, then when you pay full price, they are really making money!!
 
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WHAT resale value? Another reason for low sales is their trade-in is worth squat.
 
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I bought my '05 FX4 new for 27,000, down from 35,000 more than 3 years ago. I'm seeing trucks like mine on car lots looking like they are almost new for around 16,000. This is a buyers market right now, but I don't belive it is a sellers market for trucks.
My 04 Expy is worthless right now and most likely will be for the remainder of it's service life. The local dealer keeps sending me junk for me to trade it in, but they won't even pay it off AND I paid below invoice for it.

The best thing to do IMO is to buy a truck and plan on keeping it until you either wear it out or simply can't stand it anymore. Either way, Ford loses, sorry. My first loyalty is to my family and our financial well being.

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If you pay above invoice for a truck you are getting screwed every time.
 
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Invoice in todays market - with all of the rebates means nothing

As we all have said and know the used truck prices are in the gutter

It is now need vs want if you are buying a new truck
 
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Wanna good deal

Ah I have figured this situation out:

As things stand now:

Money is tight and hard to borrow

Deperciation is at its highest

Gas prices dictates the market

Simple solution:

Get a real nice 4 or 5 year old model for about 10 to 15 cents on the dollar of its orginial price:

I.E. 40000.00 List price equals 6000.00 put it on a low rate credit card pay 150.00 a month until you can pay it off.

Everybody is happy.....................

UGH where can I find such a BEAST???????????????

I drove about 250 miles to HOT ATLANTA GA. and got mine, the place is full of gas guzzlers. And right NOW there's lots of places out of gas! ! ! ! ! The dealers are scared to death to own anything with more than 6 plugs in it.

Hey I'm happy getting 14 mpg in my 03 V-10 EXCURSION 4X4 LIMITED especially for what I paid.
 


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