I need the motor mounts for a 78 f250 2wd with a 351m. Does anyone have any? I got no results in the classified section. Thanks guys.

 

To the best of my knowledge, the motor mounts for the 351m and the 400 are one and the same. Although getting more difficult to find, I got NEW ones for my street rod project truck. I had to get one from NAPA and one from Bumper to bumper. They were not all that expensive, so I didn't even bother to look for used ones.

Jim.

 

Actually I worded that wrong. Sorry. What I actually need is the frame perches. that the motor mount bolts to.

 

I need the same thing for my 77 F100. but for a 390. are they the same as a 302?
don't mean to hijack, I posted this in a seperat thread.

 

1977/79 F100/350's with 351M/400's with 2WD use the same supports as 1969/79 F100's or 1975/79 F150's with 302's use. (scatpack: these are not the same as 360/390)

Part numbers shown FYI only, the parts are obsolete.

D0TZ-6028-A .. Right Engine Support (302) replaced by D7TZ-6028-B (351M/400)

D0TZ-6029-A .. Left Engine Support (302) replaced by D7TZ-6029-B (351M/400) See ** below.

Engine supports are also known as: perches, stands, brackets, towers.

These parts bolt to the crossmember.

This info is for 2WD's ONLY.

** EDIT: Internet search turned up ONE D7TZ-6029-B @ Miller Obsolete Parts in Binghamton NY: 800-546-7278

This is the only obsolete Ford parts dealer that has any of these part numbers..no Ford dealer has any.

I've searched countless times for these parts before, no one has had any until now. I've also typed this same info over a dozen times here on FTE.

Obsolete parts can be hard to find...if you snooze...you loose!

 

somebody should make these perches in reproduction.

 

should be the same as any other v8 motor stand with the exception of the 460 stands, they are different, what motor did your truck come with?

 

it's a 302. I want to swap in a 390. I was told they are different.

 

well, some say they are, but a few years ago i swapped in a 351w into a 66 2wd using the factry frame stands that were there for the 352, that being said, a 351w uses the same mounts as a 302 and the 352 to my knowledge uses a standard FE family motor mount too

 

well according to NumberDummy he says they are different. isn't the 351 differernt from the 360/390 motors? I am not too familiar with Fords interchanges. thanks for the info.

 

When it comes to the perches, I am not sure what all Ford has done as they keep coming up with "better: ideas that make it hard to retrofit.

However I will tell you, I am working on a project right now, that has a 1975 F150 4x4 chassis. It HAD a 360 v-8 originally. I now have a 300 straight 6 in it. It wasn't easy to get it to bolt in, as I had to take the motor mount OFF the drivers side when dropping it in, then when in place I bolted the mount back on the motor. I feel it should have dropped down lower into the perches, but it does fit and does bolt down solid. Maybe I should have taken the perches from the 79 F150 donor truck, but I didn't. I didn't realize that Ford, even after working with them all these years, had used a bunch of different perches too.

Now that you guys have brought this up, I am going to look at the 79 closer today and see IF I think there is much difference in them or not. One thing I noticed is that the rear tranny mount did not line up. But since I shortened the wheelbase up to 86 inches, I decided to drop the tranny a few inches back there anyway so I can get the rear driveshaft to line up better.

The front driveshaft was too short, so I extended this now so it will fit. There is a big difference in the crossmembers, etc., between the 75 and the 79 also.

So while this group classifies the 73 to 79 trucks in one group, they are a lot different in actuality. Some of the body sheetmetal looks the same, but that is about it. Ford made a lot of running changes in these trucks.

I swapped a whole 1985 drivetrain from a Ranger about ten years ago, into a nice looking 84 Ranger that I had, and I was surprised at all the differences there were in just one year. The trucks "looked" the same, but certainly were not.

Expect there to be plenty of differences when you make a swap, regardless of how close they may look to you on the surface. That is one of the reasons Chevies became so popular in the hot rod world. GM didn't make near the running changes in their small block V-8's that Ford has done over the years, therefore a whole lot easier to swap from year to year, model to model, engine to engine.

Jim.
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It depends on WHAT 351 you are talking about and what part of the motor you are talking about. Ford has at least three totally different 351 motors. I say at least, because they could even have one I don't know about. Course the 351's are not even 351's. THey are really 352's, but Ford designated them as 351's to TRY to keep the confusion down a "little". LOL.

And yes the 351's are ALL different than the 352/360/390 motors, in themselves.
However the 351W does use the same motor mount as the 302/289's do. (later 289's). For the most part. The 351 Cleveland also uses the same motor mount. The 351M uses the same motor mount as the 400c/m does.

When it comes to perches, who can say. I am finding differences all over the place there, depending on the particular year of the car or truck. I am finding differences in the transfer cases also in the different years of trucks. Or at least the different years of trucks I have been coming into contact lately. BUT WHO KNOWS what has been swapped out in these vehicles over the years???

Jim.

 

i have a set ill sell you.
cant send u a e-mail or PM so .......... i dunno.
send me a PM with an e-mail addy or summin.
Mitch

 

As original: There were no 351W's installed in F150/350's till the 1981 model year.

As original: 351W's installed in 1975/79 (& 1980/91) Econolines. The engine supports and mounts will not work on any F100/350...from any year.

As original: 351C's were only installed in 1970/74 passenger cars and Ranchero's.

As original: 351M's installed on 1977/79's on F100/350's with or without 4WD, as were 400's. The 2WD supports will not work on 4WD trucks, and vice versa.

1980/82 F150/350's also used 351M/400's but the supports will not work on 1979 and earlier F100/350's.

1969/79 302's and 1977/79 351M/400's with 2WD use the same supports.

1973/76 360/390: As original. Parts catalog sez: 360/390 only. They're not the same as any other V8 engine used.

1973/76 F100/250's with 360's & 4WD except Crew Cabs use: C6TZ-6028-D R/S & C6TZ-6029-F L/S Supports.

1973/76 F250's with 360's & 4WD Crew Cabs only use: D3TZ-6028-C R/S & D3TZ-6029-A L/S Supports.

1973/76 F100/350's with 360/390's & 2WD use: D4TZ-6028-B R/S & D4TZ-6029-B L/S Supports.

 

my email is scatpack103@yahoo.com. how much you asking for them?