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Old 08-05-2008, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by secondarychaos
ya, the V10 guys have some ego issues...
I was towing a 4 horse trailer full of firewood up a mountain pass and i passed a triton towing a camp trailer, probably 3k less. he was pissed, clearly he was laying into the throttle to no avail. of course at 7400 ft ASL, a turbo really helps.

I think they buy trucks with 2 extra cylinders to make up for something...

The 7.3l wins me everytime. If you are worried more about ride than towing or HP, then you need a civic or something, not a 6000 pound truck. Its nice having a good ride but I love my 96 leaf sprung TRUCK!
 
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:40 AM
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I think they buy trucks with 2 extra cylinders to make up for something...
you said it, not me but yeah, i was just browsing the super duty section since thats what my 5.4 is. and i came across a thread calling the v10 the ultimate towing machine or something like that. and they were all bragging about how no stock diesel on the market can tow with the v10 and how its so much more durable than diesels too now ill admit, there are some pretty quick gas trucks out there that will blow my doors off pulling light loads. put 3k lbs behind a titan and a stock 7.3 and the titan will win the race up hill every time. but put 20k behind them and youll be picking the pieces of the titan before it even pulls out. and i just couldnt convince them that theres more to towing than a drag race. if you run them wide open a v10 may be able to make it to the top of a hill faster than my 7.3, but my 7.3 says "hill? what hill??" and that what i like best about it
 
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:17 PM
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you said it, not me but yeah, i was just browsing the super duty section since thats what my 5.4 is. and i came across a thread calling the v10 the ultimate towing machine or something like that. and they were all bragging about how no stock diesel on the market can tow with the v10 and how its so much more durable than diesels too now ill admit, there are some pretty quick gas trucks out there that will blow my doors off pulling light loads. put 3k lbs behind a titan and a stock 7.3 and the titan will win the race up hill every time. but put 20k behind them and youll be picking the pieces of the titan before it even pulls out. and i just couldnt convince them that theres more to towing than a drag race. if you run them wide open a v10 may be able to make it to the top of a hill faster than my 7.3, but my 7.3 says "hill? what hill??" and that what i like best about it

Yup the 7.3 stays in OD the whole time. A V10 will deffently have to down shift and spin 5 grand to keep up.
 
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I think they buy trucks with 2 extra cylinders to make up for something...

I bought mine because I could not find a 02 7.3 CC and would not buy a 6.0.It is a great motor but absolutely no aftermarket for it.There was a supercharger for them at one time that would probably make it a beast....but the motor became unreliable.......Dodge parted with the V10(their design was horrible) and GM has been testing one to replace the 8.1 since they dont offer a big block in their trucks now.I think Ford should just get rid of it and replace with the smaller diesel they are putting in the F150
 
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and i thought the powerstrokes were supposed to blow smoke!! i cant say about the v10 but i have had 4 chebys one with the 454 and my 7.3 pulls better, faster, more stable, and with better mileage. i wouldnt trade my 7.3 for anything but another 7.3
 
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the main problem i have with the v10 is the same thing i have against all the new gas engines. they are made to achieve high horsepower, no matter how much it hurts their real world driving. you have to rev them to 5k rpm to get them to move. high rpms=high horsepower. and thats what sells. people want to get in a peter pulling contest and brag that their truck has 350 horsepower or 400, etc. get stopped at a red light on a steep hill with 15k hooked to you and see how much that 400 horsepower at 6k rpm helps you. horsepower is just a made up number that doesnt mean crap in towing. a 7.5 only has 215 horsepower and has 40 less lbs of torque than a v10, but it will pull the wheels out from under the v10 any day of the week.

thats what messed ford up with the 6.0. according to motor trend or whatever i was reading, international had designed the 6.0 to have something like 250 horsepower and over 650 lbs of torque. but ford told them no one would buy a truck with 250 horsepower when dodge and chevy both had over 300. even though it had 80 more lbs of torque and would pull twice as good. and at the last minute changed a bunch of stuff on it and rolled out the biggest piece of crap diesel they have ever made. and then ford blames international for the problems and wants them to pay for the recalls when it was fords design. give me a 6.9 or any 7.3 over the 6.0 any day of the week. at least it will get me where im going.
 
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I think Ford should just get rid of it and replace with the smaller diesel they are putting in the F150
The 4.4 diesel will be an option in future SD's so the rumors say.
To the guy who said his 7.3 could out-tow his F150 5.0- that's like saying a Ferrari will outrun a Toyota Camry- DUH!
I remember my first experience towing with a diesel... it was a borrowed 02-ish F250 crew cab shorty 4x4 w/7.3, auto trans and some kind of chip. I was pulling a 4 horse trailer loaded with horses. I was going up a pass at 50 and somewhat struggling, and thought to myself "this thing doesn't do any better than my 460 could." About a week later I hit the same run with the same load behind my 95 F250 supercab long box 4x4 w/460 and auto trans... best I could do was 40 and I was pushing it hard to keep 40!
 
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To the guy who said his 7.3 could out-tow his F150 5.0- that's like saying a Ferrari will outrun a Toyota Camry- DUH!
That was in response to this:

Originally Posted by phillips91
one of the guys rationale for saying that was because it would pull circles around his old f150 with a 5.0.....oh, well if it will out pull a 5.0 then surely it can out pull a psd
 
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Here is a 6.0 guy... my bud bought 08 v10 that thing is a slug compared to my 6.0 maybe its just more power then they can handle ...........
 
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I agree the V10 is stupid,and also agree about ford lacking power with these new Triton motors BRING BACK THE WINDSOR!,my wife drives a 98 expedition 5.4 it doesn't have the power I think it should and it is horrible on gas.
 
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One guy in that thread was talking about how he can pull a trailer with his V10 and get 9 mpg all day long... WHOOOPEE! If my PSD started getting 9 towing a load, it better have a LOAD behind it (30K or so).
The V10 does nothing to impress me. A small V8 like the 5.4 is just too gutless for serious towing.
 
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Lets face it some people just don't know they have never driven a diesel all they have driven is gas Joby's .

I have driven big truck for many years now and can remember a time when big trucks like dump trucks transports and such were gas only and diesel was just an option that quickly changed when people came to realise that a diesel had more torque,better fuel economy,at lower rpm,s which meant less maintenance. it,s common sense really.

I think maybe if some of these people tried out a nice 7.3 or any turbo diesel for that matter for a week or two pullin a load they would change their mind

It's funny how that sweet whistle makes you never want to turn back LOL
 
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wow major pissing contest over in that SD forum. I like the diesel company here.

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let me say first that i would not trade my powerstroke for anything else.

that being said i must say the 460 is a stronger motor. my 97 250 was the mirror of my current rig with the exception of engines. the 460 would outpull my 7.3 anyday of the week. i had only hillbilly mods done to it but i did made it a real screamer. it was lots faster at the drag strip, and i actualy outpulled a 7.3 up a hill while i was towing an empty car trailer and the 7.3 was just a truck. i could never touch the fuel economy empty and towing with the 460 but when it came to power the 7.3 could not compete. i'm sure once i step up to stage 1's or 2's it will be a different story but the 460 had no fuel or base motor changes done to it.

the v-10 is a really good motor, in its bone stock form its not that impressive but look at what they wrap that monster motor up in....
had a 2000 v-10 that ll we did was change the exhaust (hillbilly style of course) but kept the stock manifolds. headers are really costly, we put a nice freeflowing intake on it and stepped up to 285/75/16's on 4.10 gears.also threw a chip into it. with just those quick simple mods, it would just walk past my 460 truck depending on who cut a better light. it got the same economy as the 460 though being the only downfall. pulled great but as you said, it has to downshift and rev high to make power, but thats the way the 4.6, 5.4 and 6.8 are made. its top end power. not the best for a towing design but it will do it without hesitation.
 
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i have quite a bit of expericance driving v10's we have two of them at work. they are very impressive for a gas motor but my 7.3 will out pull any day. the v10's also like to blow spark plugs right out of the heads, one of ours has done it already and im told its a common problem. just about everyone i hear driving around has a slight miss to it (one of ours does too) and it cant be figured out no matter what we have done. you realy have to rev the **** outta of them to pull alot of weight and the gas miliage is about 1/4 of what i get in my power stroke. ill pay the extra .50 cents a gallon for diesel any day.
 


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