Bad Fuel Pump, Check Valve
#1
Bad Fuel Pump, Check Valve
I just bought a '94 F150 with a front tank that doesn't work, and it fills from the rear tank. I've not changed a fuel pump from this year truck, but is the check valve built in with the pump housing itself? So by replacing the front pump that doesn't work, the syphoning problem would be fixed too, correct?
Also, I've priced fuel pumps online and found a range of $130 to $400 with different model years of compatability. How could there be such a huge range in price? I.E., is there a specific type (or brand) of pump to stay away from?
Thanks guys.
Also, I've priced fuel pumps online and found a range of $130 to $400 with different model years of compatability. How could there be such a huge range in price? I.E., is there a specific type (or brand) of pump to stay away from?
Thanks guys.
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OK, so I've gathered that the fuel pump, shuttle valve and check valve are all within the tank.
>>Can these all be replaced individually?
>>How does one know if the shuttle valve or check valve is bad?
Symptoms: No front pump whine and the front tank is filling while being run off the rear tank.
>>Can these all be replaced individually?
>>How does one know if the shuttle valve or check valve is bad?
Symptoms: No front pump whine and the front tank is filling while being run off the rear tank.
#5
Originally Posted by FordGP
OK, so I've gathered that the fuel pump, shuttle valve and check valve are all within the tank.
Originally Posted by FordGP
>>Can these all be replaced individually?
Originally Posted by FordGP
>>How does one know if the shuttle valve or check valve is bad?
Originally Posted by FordGP
Symptoms: No front pump whine and the front tank is filling while being run off the rear tank.
#6
Thanks subford. So the fuel pump for this year will include the check valve and shuttle valve then eh. My '88 with dual tanks just has a normal pump & pickup assembly inside the tank, which wasn't that expensive.
I guess I'm seeing conflicting info., or maybe there are differences by year that's providing the confusion. I'm not sure why I'd hear about some people replacing just the valve. The other thing is when I search for fuel pumps, I'm getting just a huge range of options so I'm not sure what to even purchase.
Anyone know what the price should be for the pump assembly that I need for this 94?
Thanks!
I guess I'm seeing conflicting info., or maybe there are differences by year that's providing the confusion. I'm not sure why I'd hear about some people replacing just the valve. The other thing is when I search for fuel pumps, I'm getting just a huge range of options so I'm not sure what to even purchase.
Anyone know what the price should be for the pump assembly that I need for this 94?
Thanks!
#7
I found this on Edmunds, which makes the most sense so far. Now the question is how to I know that I'm ordering the correct fuel pump assembly or is it a FDM?
"One of your fuel pumps has a bad check valve, (or somebody sold you the wrong pumps). When gas is pumped to the engine, what isn't used is pumped back to the gas tanks. If your check valve has failed, the gas doesn't go back to the proper tank, or the front tank just pumps into the rear or vice versa, and could starve the engine too. The Hazard the tank could overflow and cause a fire. Ford had a recall for this problem, but I don't think '94 models were included.
The check valve system is built into the fuel pump. it's called a "shuttle valve," When the shuttle valve fails on one pump, it lets the other tank fill it up, when it's supposed to be checked. The shuttle valve is in the in tank fuel pump (FDM - fuel delivery module) for 90 to 96, according to my Haynes manual. Haynes says the damaged valve can't be repaired. You need to replace the whole fdm drop in unit it comes as one piece with everything.
When the fuel is cross flowing to the other fuel tank in your case to the front tank then the FDM shuttle valve is stuck open. Get a Haynes manual, it has step by step instructions. I did a search and found: "If you have a pump in each tank the problem is with the tank that is being filled while switched to the other one. If you are running on the rear tank and the front tank is being filled the problem is with the check valve in the front tank (stuck open). Replace the front pump unit. If the rear tank is being filled while running on the front tank, replace the rear pump unit." So it sounds like your rear check valve is the problem."
"One of your fuel pumps has a bad check valve, (or somebody sold you the wrong pumps). When gas is pumped to the engine, what isn't used is pumped back to the gas tanks. If your check valve has failed, the gas doesn't go back to the proper tank, or the front tank just pumps into the rear or vice versa, and could starve the engine too. The Hazard the tank could overflow and cause a fire. Ford had a recall for this problem, but I don't think '94 models were included.
The check valve system is built into the fuel pump. it's called a "shuttle valve," When the shuttle valve fails on one pump, it lets the other tank fill it up, when it's supposed to be checked. The shuttle valve is in the in tank fuel pump (FDM - fuel delivery module) for 90 to 96, according to my Haynes manual. Haynes says the damaged valve can't be repaired. You need to replace the whole fdm drop in unit it comes as one piece with everything.
When the fuel is cross flowing to the other fuel tank in your case to the front tank then the FDM shuttle valve is stuck open. Get a Haynes manual, it has step by step instructions. I did a search and found: "If you have a pump in each tank the problem is with the tank that is being filled while switched to the other one. If you are running on the rear tank and the front tank is being filled the problem is with the check valve in the front tank (stuck open). Replace the front pump unit. If the rear tank is being filled while running on the front tank, replace the rear pump unit." So it sounds like your rear check valve is the problem."
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Originally Posted by FordGP
I found this on Edmunds, which makes the most sense so far. Now the question is how to I know that I'm ordering the correct fuel pump assembly or is it a FDM?
Originally Posted by FordGP
"One of your fuel pumps has a bad check valve, (or somebody sold you the wrong pumps). When gas is pumped to the engine, what isn't used is pumped (Bypassed by the fuel pressure regulator) back to the gas tanks. If your check valve (Shuttle Valve) has failed, the gas doesn't go back to the proper tank, or the front tank just pumps (Check Valve) into the rear or vice versa, and could starve the engine too. The Hazard the tank could overflow and cause a fire. Ford had a recall for this problem, but I don't think '94 models were included (Just the 1993 model year).
The check valve system is built into the fuel pump. it's called a "shuttle valve,(Wrong, it is call a Check Valve)" When the shuttle valve fails on one pump, it lets the other tank fill it up, when it's supposed to be checked. The shuttle valve is in the in tank fuel pump (So is the Check Valve) (FDM - fuel delivery module) for 90 to 96, according to my Haynes manual. Haynes says the damaged valve can't be repaired. You need to replace the whole fdm drop in unit it comes as one piece with everything.
When the fuel is cross flowing to the other fuel tank in your case to the front tank then the FDM shuttle valve is stuck open (Or the Check Valve is). Get a Haynes manual, it has step by step instructions. I did a search and found: "If you have a pump in each tank the problem is with the tank that is being filled while switched to the other one. If you are running on the rear tank and the front tank is being filled the problem is with the check valve (or the Shuttle Valve) in the front tank (stuck open). Replace the front pump unit. If the rear tank is being filled while running on the front tank, replace the rear pump unit." So it sounds like your rear check valve (or the Shuttle Valve) is the problem."
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Recall is available
I had the same problem (91 F-150) with the return valve in my tanks, feeding one tank from another. I was researching how to bypass one tank and just use the other, when a guy at an autoparts store told me there was a recall. I took it to a ford dealership and they returned it a couple days later fixed, no charge. I've never had a problem with it since.
#12
Thanks subford. So the fuel pump for this year will include the check valve and shuttle valve then eh. My '88 with dual tanks just has a normal pump & pickup assembly inside the tank, which wasn't that expensive.
I guess I'm seeing conflicting info., or maybe there are differences by year that's providing the confusion. I'm not sure why I'd hear about some people replacing just the valve. The other thing is when I search for fuel pumps, I'm getting just a huge range of options so I'm not sure what to even purchase.
Anyone know what the price should be for the pump assembly that I need for this 94?
Thanks!
I guess I'm seeing conflicting info., or maybe there are differences by year that's providing the confusion. I'm not sure why I'd hear about some people replacing just the valve. The other thing is when I search for fuel pumps, I'm getting just a huge range of options so I'm not sure what to even purchase.
Anyone know what the price should be for the pump assembly that I need for this 94?
Thanks!
#14
Fuel Tanks filling up from back to front if downhill
I found this on Edmunds, which makes the most sense so far. Now the question is how to I know that I'm ordering the correct fuel pump assembly or is it a FDM?
"One of your fuel pumps has a bad check valve, (or somebody sold you the wrong pumps). When gas is pumped to the engine, what isn't used is pumped back to the gas tanks. If your check valve has failed, the gas doesn't go back to the proper tank, or the front tank just pumps into the rear or vice versa, and could starve the engine too. The Hazard the tank could overflow and cause a fire. Ford had a recall for this problem, but I don't think '94 models were included.
The check valve system is built into the fuel pump. it's called a "shuttle valve," When the shuttle valve fails on one pump, it lets the other tank fill it up, when it's supposed to be checked. The shuttle valve is in the in tank fuel pump (FDM - fuel delivery module) for 90 to 96, according to my Haynes manual. Haynes says the damaged valve can't be repaired. You need to replace the whole fdm drop in unit it comes as one piece with everything.
When the fuel is cross flowing to the other fuel tank in your case to the front tank then the FDM shuttle valve is stuck open. Get a Haynes manual, it has step by step instructions. I did a search and found: "If you have a pump in each tank the problem is with the tank that is being filled while switched to the other one. If you are running on the rear tank and the front tank is being filled the problem is with the check valve in the front tank (stuck open). Replace the front pump unit. If the rear tank is being filled while running on the front tank, replace the rear pump unit." So it sounds like your rear check valve is the problem."
"One of your fuel pumps has a bad check valve, (or somebody sold you the wrong pumps). When gas is pumped to the engine, what isn't used is pumped back to the gas tanks. If your check valve has failed, the gas doesn't go back to the proper tank, or the front tank just pumps into the rear or vice versa, and could starve the engine too. The Hazard the tank could overflow and cause a fire. Ford had a recall for this problem, but I don't think '94 models were included.
The check valve system is built into the fuel pump. it's called a "shuttle valve," When the shuttle valve fails on one pump, it lets the other tank fill it up, when it's supposed to be checked. The shuttle valve is in the in tank fuel pump (FDM - fuel delivery module) for 90 to 96, according to my Haynes manual. Haynes says the damaged valve can't be repaired. You need to replace the whole fdm drop in unit it comes as one piece with everything.
When the fuel is cross flowing to the other fuel tank in your case to the front tank then the FDM shuttle valve is stuck open. Get a Haynes manual, it has step by step instructions. I did a search and found: "If you have a pump in each tank the problem is with the tank that is being filled while switched to the other one. If you are running on the rear tank and the front tank is being filled the problem is with the check valve in the front tank (stuck open). Replace the front pump unit. If the rear tank is being filled while running on the front tank, replace the rear pump unit." So it sounds like your rear check valve is the problem."
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I found this on Edmunds, which makes the most sense so far. Now the question is how to I know that I'm ordering the correct fuel pump assembly or is it a FDM?
"One of your fuel pumps has a bad check valve, (or somebody sold you the wrong pumps). When gas is pumped to the engine, what isn't used is pumped back to the gas tanks. If your check valve has failed, the gas doesn't go back to the proper tank, or the front tank just pumps into the rear or vice versa, and could starve the engine too. The Hazard the tank could overflow and cause a fire. Ford had a recall for this problem, but I don't think '94 models were included.
The check valve system is built into the fuel pump. it's called a "shuttle valve," When the shuttle valve fails on one pump, it lets the other tank fill it up, when it's supposed to be checked. The shuttle valve is in the in tank fuel pump (FDM - fuel delivery module) for 90 to 96, according to my Haynes manual. Haynes says the damaged valve can't be repaired. You need to replace the whole fdm drop in unit it comes as one piece with everything.
When the fuel is cross flowing to the other fuel tank in your case to the front tank then the FDM shuttle valve is stuck open. Get a Haynes manual, it has step by step instructions. I did a search and found: "If you have a pump in each tank the problem is with the tank that is being filled while switched to the other one. If you are running on the rear tank and the front tank is being filled the problem is with the check valve in the front tank (stuck open). Replace the front pump unit. If the rear tank is being filled while running on the front tank, replace the rear pump unit." So it sounds like your rear check valve is the problem."
"One of your fuel pumps has a bad check valve, (or somebody sold you the wrong pumps). When gas is pumped to the engine, what isn't used is pumped back to the gas tanks. If your check valve has failed, the gas doesn't go back to the proper tank, or the front tank just pumps into the rear or vice versa, and could starve the engine too. The Hazard the tank could overflow and cause a fire. Ford had a recall for this problem, but I don't think '94 models were included.
The check valve system is built into the fuel pump. it's called a "shuttle valve," When the shuttle valve fails on one pump, it lets the other tank fill it up, when it's supposed to be checked. The shuttle valve is in the in tank fuel pump (FDM - fuel delivery module) for 90 to 96, according to my Haynes manual. Haynes says the damaged valve can't be repaired. You need to replace the whole fdm drop in unit it comes as one piece with everything.
When the fuel is cross flowing to the other fuel tank in your case to the front tank then the FDM shuttle valve is stuck open. Get a Haynes manual, it has step by step instructions. I did a search and found: "If you have a pump in each tank the problem is with the tank that is being filled while switched to the other one. If you are running on the rear tank and the front tank is being filled the problem is with the check valve in the front tank (stuck open). Replace the front pump unit. If the rear tank is being filled while running on the front tank, replace the rear pump unit." So it sounds like your rear check valve is the problem."
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