Factory Ratings - 460
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Can't comment on factory HP ratings for your year, but I found the change over from "stock/retarded" to "straight up" to be worth the money spent. The shop that did it for me commented on how quick the engine fired up after the change. I noted how well it pulled my 10,000# high profile fifth wheel after changing out the "detuning" gear set. As long as I don't worry about mileage ... it is a 460 after all ... Clyde will now do anything I want it to do.
Ford Racing timing set from Summit.
Ford Racing timing set from Summit.
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Originally Posted by BChance
200hp from a '72 460 4V with 9.3:1 compression, 198hp from a '73 460 4V, 195hp from a '74 460 4V
Sad but true. In 72 they dropped the compression. 1971 460 4V had 365 @ 4600 rpm. (11.0:1 compression)
Sad but true. In 72 they dropped the compression. 1971 460 4V had 365 @ 4600 rpm. (11.0:1 compression)
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vintage 460 HP... ah, the memories
The 1970 460s in the Lincoln Continentals were also in the 365+ HP range, with the same 11:1 comp. ratio. I had one that I rue having ever traded it away, but I was young & foolish then. Yes, it needed the 91+ octane to run right, but when you gave it that premium to drink it would sure move that 4600 pounds! And wow was it ever a great road car for long trips.
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Originally Posted by donnor
The 1970 460s in the Lincoln Continentals were also in the 365+ HP range, with the same 11:1 comp. ratio. I had one that I rue having ever traded it away, but I was young & foolish then. Yes, it needed the 91+ octane to run right, but when you gave it that premium to drink it would sure move that 4600 pounds! And wow was it ever a great road car for long trips.
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My wifes sister had an operation one time and I got tired and crawled into the back seat in the hospital parking lot and went to sleep. It was like sleeping in a comfortable bed. The weight sticker on the door said it weighed 6000 lbs, Man I wish I still had that car.
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Originally Posted by darrin1999
thats what my 1972 lincoln continental was like... when i sat in it it was like i was home... i just wish it hadnt been "borrowed" and impounded. i miss that car.
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While the "gross" versus "net" HP ratings did play a role in those 100+ drops in HP, there is still no doubt that those 11:1 compression/92 octane beasts were much more powerful than their newer siblings. I know: my ex-wife managed to wear out a set of new Sears Roadhandler (read Michelin) radials that were rated for 40,000+ miles in less than 20,000. While I do not regret not having her I would not mind having that car again...
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Back in the sixty's the auto manufacturers started horsepower wars. This happened to the audio industry as well. It was all marketing. The more horsepower a car had the more people wanted it. The same with stereos. One manufacturer would claim 50 watts (this was phenomenal in those days) another one would claim 100 watts. Everybody would run out and buy the latest and most powerful to brag about it. It was the same way with cars. Everybody was making phenomenal claims to sell their products. I remember one stereo manufacturer claimed 300 watts. (it wasn't really a lie because they were stating input power instead of output power like everyone else was) This caught the governments eye and they started clamping down on these outrageous claims. This was the late sixties and you know how long it takes the government to act. This would have been about the time frame that the auto manufacturers started restating and lowering their horsepower claims. I wonder if the government had anything to do with it?
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Originally Posted by wb6vvv
Back in the sixty's the auto manufacturers started horsepower wars. This happened to the audio industry as well. It was all marketing. The more horsepower a car had the more people wanted it. The same with stereos. One manufacturer would claim 50 watts (this was phenomenal in those days) another one would claim 100 watts. Everybody would run out and buy the latest and most powerful to brag about it. It was the same way with cars. Everybody was making phenomenal claims to sell their products. I remember one stereo manufacturer claimed 300 watts. (it wasn't really a lie because they were stating input power instead of output power like everyone else was) This caught the governments eye and they started clamping down on these outrageous claims. This was the late sixties and you know how long it takes the government to act. This would have been about the time frame that the auto manufacturers started restating and lowering their horsepower claims. I wonder if the government had anything to do with it?
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the torque is what you feel... the horsepower is torque over time. the reason a 460 doesnt have much horsepower is because in stock form it doesnt revv much. a 460 is built for low end torque and towing from the factory. you can easily get a 460 over 400 horse and have it still be totally driveable. all it takes is some head work, bigger cam, valvetrane to match the cam, intake and carb to match the cam, and thats about it... the stock lower end will handle 400 hp all day no problems.