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Old 04-13-2007, 04:29 PM
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I talked to a mechanic on the highway and he mentioned that he has found dead mice and shop rags in gas tanks, all kinds of stuff. The newer cars have the restricted filler port that probably minimizes this kind of thing.
 
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If thumping on the dash changes the gauge readings, or the gauges are doing the hoochy-coochy on their own tells me the CVR is going bad. The CVR = constant voltage regulator feeds a constant even flow of electicity to the gauges. Old age and corrosion affects these too. They've been a PITA for years. Only one type was used for all the 1961/66's. All the autoparts stores carry them, and they are fairly cheap. There are different types used for later yrs, so y'all might take the old one with you, or look at the type and number of the spade connectors used. The CVR is shaped like a small box, about 1" x 3/4" and mounts to the backside of the dash near the gauge cluster. One bolt holds it in place.

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Be careful what you wish for . . .

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. . . The newer cars have the restricted filler port that probably minimizes this kind of thing.
My wife's '04 Crown Vic was in the shop TWICE for warantee repair because it would shut off ANY gas pump at any station. It litterally took 15 minutes to fill the tank. They replaced the entire tank and filler spout the first time and it still had the problem. They would not tell us what they did the second time, but they said there are SEVERAL valves in the filler tube! I cannot imagine what for: anti-siphon, anti-???, . . .

Needless-to-say, I prefer my old trucks. (& I never have owned anything later than '68.)
 
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My wife's '04 Crown Vic was in the shop TWICE for warantee repair because it would shut off ANY gas pump at any station. It litterally took 15 minutes to fill the tank. They replaced the entire tank and filler spout the first time and it still had the problem. They would not tell us what they did the second time, but they said there are SEVERAL valves in the filler tube! I cannot imagine what for: anti-siphon, anti-???, . . .

Needless-to-say, I prefer my old trucks. (& I never have owned anything later than '68.)
Archie, when you visit your local dealer they write up a service repair order (RO), and when you pick it up, they are supposed to give you a copy of that RO (it's the law). On the copy is the services performed, the mechanics number and/or name, what was done and what parts were used. The warranty RO's (1863's) list the part numbers, because a copy goes to Ford. Those numbers can be tracked down as to what they are and what they do.
 

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Old 04-13-2007, 05:14 PM
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Bill, It is the wife's deal. First time she showed me the RO, second time it was fixed & she did not care. (I still am curious, but I am "out of the loop" on this deal.)

P.S.: I NEED to stay out of these deals - I might win the argument with the service writer, but it is not worth risking a stroke!

P.P.S.: I sure hope Tedster9 finds out his problem has a cheap fix. (mandatory tech content)
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
If thumping on the dash changes the gauge readings, or the gauges are doing the hoochy-coochy on their own tells me the CVR is going bad. The CVR = constant voltage regulator feeds a constant even flow of electicity to the gauges. Old age and corrosion affects these too. They've been a PITA for years.
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Yeah, I replaced that too - I figured that *had* to be the problem, what else could it be? Well it not be. I didn't think it was cheap either - it was $25 for something the size of a chiclet.
 
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P.S.: I NEED to stay out of these deals - I might win the argument with the service writer, but it is not worth risking a stroke!
LOL that doesn't take much today, they are almost as clueless as the parts no-help, but they are the second or third biggest liars in a dealership. When my wife took her minivan (not mentioning the make) in for service, they called her and said the 02 sensor was bad and the cost to fix it was $220.00. The van had 14,000 miles and was 16 months old. I drove over there, and after having a few words with both the service writer and manager, the price dropped to zero. I wonder how many ppl they lay away with this type of BS?
 
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can we get an update???

hey guys, ran across this thread and was wondering if anyone has an answer to this guys question. how o you replace the fuel pickup filter screen????? or are is numbert dummy refering to a metal screen at the fuel line on top of the tank???
 
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Interesting thread...and I too would love to know the answer to your last question Bill about the o2 sensor and what the dealer tried to do and failed with you...I know when I get repairs done at the dealer I wanna see the parts that came off and ask the tech questions as to this that and the other...
As for the fuel pickup/plugging issue...couldnt it also be a possibility that the line is dying internally and causing a blockage midstream in the pipe...blowing backwards may help a bit, but if its in bad shape and so on, more crap mighta created a dam in there...as for the line in the tank itself...I was thinking that it might have rotted off...arent the tanks used thru the 72 model yr as I recall from Hollanders...as for it dying on you and not starting...I would get a wood dowel and put down the neck and see what ya come up with for a fuel level...if you hit bottom ya might get an idea of the crud on the bottom too.
One thing I learned...kinda a PITA initially, but if you get a dowel and run it out add gas gallon by gallon, marking off where each gallon is on the dowel and a mark as to line up on the neck too so you get accurate readings...



Hope this helps you out some, cs65
 
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hey guys, ran across this thread and was wondering if anyone has an answer to this guys question. how o you replace the fuel pickup filter screen????? or are is numbert dummy refering to a metal screen at the fuel line on top of the tank???
If there was one, it's long gone.

Replaced the fuel tank itself last spring. $urprisingly the tank was in good shape with no corrosion or sediment, and the pickup tube was in excellent shape. The likely problem was the fuel pump, also replaced. Anybody needs a serviceable in-cab type fuel tank, I'm yer huckleberry.
 
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D1AZ-9A011-A .. Fuel Pump Filter Screen
I'm not familiar with this part, and when I googled it, it appears to slip over the bottom of the fuel sending unit???? My sending unit doesn't draw fuel, and I don't recall seeing any "sock" on the fuel line in there.

Please describe more.
 
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
If there was one, it's long gone.

Replaced the fuel tank itself last spring. $urprisingly the tank was in good shape with no corrosion or sediment, and the pickup tube was in excellent shape. The likely problem was the fuel pump, also replaced. Anybody needs a serviceable in-cab type fuel tank, I'm yer huckleberry.
damn dude. i just bought one about 3 months ago. It's still in the box, since i'm laid up. timing is everything, i guess.
 
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:25 PM
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Well - you could send the new one back - but Penn. is a fur piece from Ioway. You can have it though, it needs to go bye.
 
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you know what? let me see if i can send it back. i'll pm you so we don't bore these people with the details.
 
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