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All the 3v V10 motors starting in Late 2004 as the 05 MY are rated as 362HP and 457 Ft Pounds torque
Before this change to 3 Valve heads the 2v V10 from 2000 to 04 was rated at 310 HP and around 425 Ft pounds
The early 97-99 motors were rated between 275 and 295 HP
The 3v V10 was a serious re-design that included and entirely new intake air box, a variable volume computer controlled Plenum/intake manifold, much more header like exhaust manifolds, twin catalytic converters and new Two to One collector back to a very large muffler ... these changes also included new PCM computer control with a new communications interface (CAN) and distributed computing in several break out black boxes...for example the fuel injectors are on their own separate computer.
They also mated this motor to the 5R110 TorqShift 5 speed auto trany with enhanced Tow/haul mode and engine braking for down hill grades...the entire Power-train is fully computer controlled to include a electronic throttle and throttle body that allows the cruise control system to not be a separate function with additional sensors, actuators, and controls
The most I was hoping for was a HP/Torque rating, but the wealth of info you shared with me greatly helps me out here with what I need to make an informed decision! I was looking at a 05 or newer F250 Supercab, Shortbox but with the Six speed manual. Have any information on the manual? and if you have any other info about the newer engine that I should know, I would appreciate it.
by the way, with the factory 4.30 gears did you change to a larger size tire, or stay with the stock size? Sounds like a nice combination you have there with your truck specs.
My last three trucks were spec-ed out and ordered exactly how I wanted them... I did by a F250 off the lot that had 3.73:1 LS unit and I liked it but always wished for a bit deeper gear in the very tall mountains of Colorado...
The ZF 6 speed is a damned good transmission and is built like a tank... mated to a 4.30:1 LS unit it will climb walls and pull any weight up to cruise RPM/MPH like there is nothing behind it...
The truck you are describing with a 3v V10 will be a very capable machine
I am no longer into lifts and large tires... Mostly I bought the rig for max weight tow of a rear hitched older heavy travel trailer and I got tired of the maintenance and hassles of diesel... the 415 Cubic Inch V10 is a much better motor then all the BB V8 460s I owned and is easier on fuel.
Smooth power band, nearly vibration free, so quiet you MUST look at the tach or you will grind the starter trying to restart a running motor! These motors have been optimized to have 80% of their torque down low in the rpm band and they pull strong all the way to 5200 with no flat spots... In the Colorado tall mountains I have no problems down in 3rd or 2nd bouncing the tach off the rev limiter and keeping 55~65MPH pace out ahead of the line on the right lane...she eats a bit of fuel if you keep your right foot heavy
Opps,what was your question again?..oh yes about taller tires...
Down side of the King Ranch version was I had to accept the fancy KR wheels and they only came in 18 inch... I have a SRW so total rear axle weight capacity is imperative for my loads... there are NO other tires except the Ford supplied Continentals that are rated at 3640 Pound load rated "E"
I think this truck has plenty of power to up the diameter to 35X12.5 with zero problems except the load rating... If I did not tow so heavy that is probably the way I would go
Thanks for the information guys, I was planning on the 4.10s, but I have to admit the low end with the 4.30s would probably be pretty nice.
So, this fall I am guessing there will be a 05-07 F250 XLT Super Cab, Short box, V10, 6 speed, 4.30 LS sitting in the garage! As much as I want the truck now, I agree with the fiance that a house comes first, ugh, so many things to buy, and not enough money to do it all at once!
But, then again, with kids in the near future, maybe the crew cab wouldnt be a bad idea, but i just dont want it to be so long, my dad has a crew cab long box Duramax, and its like manuevering a train to me!
I think you should consider a 4 door 4x4 version with long box for these reasons:
4x4 trucks are usually more versatile and the Ford 4x4 systems are actually the best there is on a truck
4 doors only slightly adds to the length and it's versatility is priceless> Now that they are everywhere, it is not quite as ugly as it once was... I have adult children who fight to sit in the back.... no more "calling shotgun" in my trucks
Get the Long Bed... things all fit in it...every thing! really I have owned a bunch of short beds and never again... I like all the "stuff" to lay flat and not hang over or out of the bed.....The short bed is always with a 29 gallon tank and the LB gets the 38 gallon factory tank... "add on" aux tanks are a pain, expensive, and never really work with all the neat computers
The maneuvering thing with a long Ford is still there but not quite as bad these days... in 05 Ford went to a coil sprung front end and the turning radius is much improved... but yes I know what you mean, it still makes me do a flip through the company parking lot to "line" up for most parking spaces... and my last three trucks were too long and tall to get into my 3 car garage... Not that it have been cleaned out enough for a car or truck anyway but that is another rant for a different forum...grin
Thanks for your service young man... you and your peers have my deepest respect... you volunteered...I was dragged in kicking and screaming as a draftee in the early 70s.... I found a niche and way of life that I enjoyed so I stuck with it for 24 years... I am now a DA civilian working daily with soldiers and my direct first line supervisor is a COL... I still pee green and always will
Well First Sergeant, it is always good to know that we will have people like you to help us lower enlisted out!
That is one thing that I missed when I wrote up what I am looking for, I wouldn't think of getting a truck with out 4x4, almost defeats the purpose in my opinion - I guess i just consider it standard for me, so I forgot to type it!
The fiance wants a four door, so I guess thats that, but I still like the short boxes, I started out driving a 79 F150 shortbox, and now my 95 F150 shortbox. The shortbox works fine for what I need it, I can fit my Triumph in the back of it, so I think that I will be ok with a 4 door shortbox.
another quick question, I know that the diesel in 08 will cost more, but do you think that even with the redisigned truck, prices will be similar for a v10? I am not sure what to think of the new style yet, but might have to consider it, if it isnt gonna be a ton more than a new 07 is now.
Even if Ford stick withing their typical 2~3 percent increase each year the PSD will still be a $3900~$4100 option vs. the V10 at $550~750.... I think the diesel motors are very very good IF you get a good one but I know for a fact by owning Ford SuperDuty trucks with 7.3L and 6.0L PSD that the V10 is a well kept secret... this is the absolute best bang for the buck option motor Ford has ever offered
So 2008 (hurry to order the idea of end of year ordering is questionable for a 2008 truck) l;ast three years Ford has been real screwy on when on series quits and a new MY begins... That said you are thinking of a 4x4 4 door short bed V10 6 speed ZF... get the 4.10:1 LS unless you know you definitely will haul max weight... the 4.10:1 is a great gear also
Remember the Upfitter switches..ignor all the camper and snow plow options unless that is how the truck will be used most of the time...don't upgrade the tires the stocker tires are fine for the break in and first few years of use... you can save your hard green for cool tires later... same with the rims.... they are all equally ugly and not worth the upgrade costs.... the back up sensors are worthless ( I know this will pee some folks off but it is a horrible system IMO)
Get the block heater, none of the factory stereos are worth a damn but if you mostly listen to radio and occasional listen to CDs and do NOT plan a Crutchfield replacement stereo I recommend the 6 CD changer just because the single unit sucks when you need to change disks at 80 MPH.... OH yes you will!
Good information, after some time spent looking at both the 07s and the 08s, and I dont think I like the looks of the new model as much, i like the grill of the 07s better, and it might be some good money saved by buying an 07.
I agree that I probably wouldnt need the 4.30s, 4.10s would probably be just fine for me. Wouldn't need the snow plow or camper upgrades since thats not a common use, if ever. Also not very thrilled about the steel wheels, but I kinda liked the 17inch aluminum set, and I am typically fine with a stock radio if the speakers dont crackle, heck i dont even have a cd player in my truck currently! kinda funny, when I traded my car in on the truck I brought my cds to the truck and there they sit, with nowhere to play them!
Thanks again with the info, you are really helping make the process easier!
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