Sorry if already posted:

http://www.truckworld.com/Truck-Test...superduty.html

 

Great article, lets see some of the Hemi, and chevy owners chime in!!

I can already guess their first reply...........it's a biased review!!!

 

I'm not saying that the article is inaccurate, but it was staged by Ford at the Ford proving grounds in AZ, and some of the texts looks an awlful lot like the Ford Press Release on the SD a few weeks back.

I think that Ford PR had mucho input into the article.

Also, it would not be the 1st time that a manufacturer provided a test engine that had been highly "tuned" by the staff engineers. I doubt Ford made sure that the GM and DCX engines were running "right".

The article just has a funny smell to it. And does not strike me as being particularly objective.

 

FTE posted an article two weeks ago when we were at the same location. See the front page of the site. Its wasn't inaccurate. The top people in the industry were there, from every major publication you could name. I don't think Ford would risk staging a stacked deck.

 

Anyone who does not believe that ANY company does not "stack the deck" in their favor is blissfully naive, no offense intended. They all do it, from pharmaceutical companies when designing studies to auto manufacturers in these "comparisons". Dodge can run the same test next week and the 600 will be the clear winner. Then it is Chevy's turn. I don't put a whole lot of credit into 0-60 times on these trucks, just do not believe that it reflects their intended purposes.

The superduty may well be the best but that blackeye from the 6.0 is still visible.

 

Told you guys this would happen

 

A direct quote taken from the article:

The Ford, although slow out of the gate, reigned in the Dodge and Chevy within a few hundred yards. It continued to pull away through the end of the ¼-mile, besting the Dodge Cummins by two truck lengths and the Chevy by a good eight. The Ford Power Stroke and five-speed automatic really shine once the load gets rolling

So this means that everyone here who argues that the 3V 5.4 is a better motor than the Hemi because it has a slight low end advantage even though the Hemi beats it to the 1/4 mile now has to concede that the Cummins is a better motor than the 6.0 PSD for the very same reason. The Cummins obviously has the low end torque advantage over the PSD. If it is so important that the 5.4 has a slight low end advantage over the Hemi, surely it is even more critical in a 1 ton Heavy Duty truck right?

The F-250, with the gas V-10 and towing a 10,800-pound trailer, was more than two truck lengths ahead of the Chevy Silverado 2500 at the end of the quarter-mile. The Dodge Ram 2500 Hemi was more than five back.

So the 6.8, with a displacement and 2 cylinder advantage over the the other trucks was able to outpull them? I should hope so. Interestingly, it fails to say how the new 5.4 faired against the Dodge and Chevy, or what motor the Chevy had. I assume the 8.1?

 

So youre conseeding that the best Ford Gass motor is beter than the best Chevy and Dodge gass motors??? It's about time you saw the light.

 

It is pretty sad how the all powerfull "hemi" was beaten by 8 tuck lengths......... not too powerfull is it???

 

Sure, I'd be willing to say that. I'm actually pretty disappointed that Dodge doesn't offer a larger gas motor in their heavy duty trucks. I know the V10 in my Super Duty is a better motor than the Hemi would be for it's application.

What I would like to see is how the 5.4 fairs against the Hemi in a HD application. Not everyone buys V10's you know. The motors are closely matched and it would be a good comparison. I wonder why this test didn't
show it?


Oh, and where do you see eight truck lengths? I see five. Again, where would the all powerful 3V 5.4 have placed in the same test?

 

I believe the point of the test was to test the top of the line engines. Why would you pit the 5.4 against the Hemi, shouldn't you pit it against the standard Dodge v-8? The 5.4 is not touted as something special in the Superduty, but the Hemi is.

 

Uh, the Hemi is the standard Dodge V8.

 

uh, I thought they still offered a Magnum as standard

Just checked Dodge.com and the base V8 is a 4.7 Magnum

http://www-5.dodge.com/vehiclecompar...pareMatrix.jam

 

No, it is not. This is for 3/4 ton and 1 ton heavy trucks. the hemi is standard. Matching the hemi Vs. V10 is bunk. A base motor vs. an optional one.
look here:
http://www.dodge.com/ram_2500_3500/i...type=bottomImg

 

You know I didnt get it when it said the 6.0 with 325hp and 570 lbs torque is class leading???? Maybe they need to look at the numbers again...

I might conceed that the auto 6.0 would beat the auto 600....being that the 600 is a four speed...sure bet it would be a different story with the 600 with another gear, maybe split on the high end....Id like to see the 6spds also, bet that would be a different story to...

As for the gassers, I sure would hope that the hemi wouldnt match them, its alot smaller than the v10 6.8 or the 8.1.....I think dodge needs a big HD gasser, and stop depending so much on the hype of the smaller hemi....

As for the 05 ford, looks pretty sharpe...Im sure it is a great truck...