i have a 2002 ford f-250 superduty crew cab ,4x4, v10, 3.73 rear end , and a lift kit with 35" tires. my son in law has a 2003 f-250 superduty, crew cab 2 wheel drive ,6.0 diesel. 3.73 rear end and the truck is stock.he just borrowed my 2003 regen toy hauler which has around 6500 lbs dry weight.the miles were done with my gps and i have checked my v10 and i get 7.5 mpg pulling the toy hauler.he pulled it this weekend with a similar load and the 6.0 diesel got 9.1 mpg.when you read the diesel threads the diesel guys talk about pulling 12,000 trailers and getting 12 - 14 mpg.they must be using some special diesel math.

 

Pretty much what I've known all along. On the various truck forums you can see alot of guys claiming to average 18 mpg unloaded for highway mileage with diesel pickups. Sometimes I even see sombody saying they get over 20mpg! All the guys I know locally get more like 14 to 16mpg and maybe a bit more if it stays on the highway.

My own V10 F250 averages a bit over 11mpg and will get a little over 14 if I stay on the highway and stay at the speed limit.

A little off topic but a guy I work with has a new Chevy Avalanche 2500 with the 8.1L V8. I told him my mileage and he smirked and starts telling me how he gets 18mpg with that thing on the highway and he'd be mad if he got my mileage. I went on a business meeting with him a few months back and he drove four of us about 150 miles round trip.

It was my turn to buy gas since we take turns-he filled it up on the way out of town that morning. I don't remember the exact #s but I did some quick math when I was done getting the gas and the thing managed to get somewhere between 10 and 11mpg. That's for a 100% highway trip doing 65/70mph. I asked him what happened to the 18mpg and I was feeling ripped off!! He just mumbled something about not having checked his mileage recently and changed the subject!

The point is, folks "exaggerate" about mileage especially on the internet. And it doesn't matter if it's a diesel pickup or a motorcycle!

 

Yes it is funny how people are programmed to believe that diesel motors get fabulous mileage and big V8s are terrible on gas so a V10 must be super, super hard on gas. I owned diesels for 11 years and I have not seen a huge difference in my fuel bill now with this new V10. There are many threads on this subject and I don't think things will change much. If the diesel boys have to hatch these crazy mileage claims to justify, the high maintenance costs, the stink , the noise, and the extra 5000 bucks to get a 500,000 mile motor they won't even put 50,000 miles on before they buy the newest improved version, well let them have at it. I find it all very amusing. take care, Wrench.

 

lee
welcome to FTE the best ford truck information site on the web.please atke some time and read the site guide lines and the area read first's posted then enjoy
side note you will find those of us down here in the v10 area to be gentelal men and talk straight not with what a native american buddy sayes forked tounge.
my 05 v10 has pulled about 9k and held a steady 10 mpg. while most diesels real world is only 1 or 2 mpg more.
i have a lot of family with ford psd's and none gets better then 17 unloaded.and 12 or 12.5 loaded. so yes you are correct about the smell of some air in their exhaust's.
please ahng around and enjoy FTE.

 

Hello all,


This being my first post on this forum, I feel obligated to state the obvious. After lurking and reading, and reading. There seems to be a commom "thread". The diesel guys love their trucks, and the V10 guys love their trucks. Main point? Gas or diesel who cares. I have a 2001 F250 CC 4X4 lifted V10 running on 35X12.50X16.50's and I get poor gas mileage, but this is compared to Honda and Toyota both having numerous models getting 30plus to the gallon. If I really cared or any of you really cared about our mileage, we would be driving one of those "Green Machines". BTW, I bought my V10 because I hate the smell of diesel, it absolutely nauseates me. To add to the point the only fuel I don't mind smelling is Propane! Kinda of weird, but whatever. I also don't like the sound of somebody under the hood with a can on a string swinging it around.

Let me add this..(no choice) There is somthing about driving a Big-A$% truck!
it. The only thing I would trade for is another, and maybe someday I would buy a diesel when they get even quieter, and less smelly, like the VW Toureg V10 Turbo Diesel.

Scott

http://members.***.net/scottseidner/f250/

 

Actually if you look at the reports here of us who have emissions testing, you'll see how green these V-10's really are. It does take X-amount of btu's to haul X-amount of pounds, whether it be diesel or gas. In some cities our tailpipe emissions are cleaner than the air, so we're actually helping when we drive through, peace, Ken

 

My brother-in-law bought a gasser E350 superduty a few weeks ago. For the extra $6000, he couldn't justify the TCO (total cost of ownership) of the diesel after you take into account maintenance and diesel prices vs. financing that extra $6000.

Guess what really put him over the edge to the gasser side? When I mentioned that the dealer was full of crap about 20 MPG for the diesel! That here on FTE, many people were reporting in the 14-16 range ...

The V8 has plenty of torque for what he's doing too... loading it to the gills with batteries and antifreeze (marine)...

He looked at the major vans, will not buy Chevy because of a warranty dispute years ago, and the Dodge Sprinter was just way too expensive (TCO was way out there)... so he went Ford Got a 4000lbs payload E350 w/V8, step bumper, porthole windows (so he can get passenger plates), etc. for $21K ... new... with an extended warranty to five year/100Kmiles...

 

I bought my 2003 6.0 because at the time it had the new improved tranny, more power and torque than any gas offering. I heard all about the 18 to 22 MPG that I should get. I heard how it was going to tow my trailer better. This was going to be my first diesel truck.

Well, I was coming from a 89' 460 that was over smogged and underpowered putting the power through a C6 into 456 gears. So to me the new diesel was the best. It got great MPG's, towed great, massive amounts of power, cruised at 80 on freeway, it was sweet COMPARED TO THE 460!

Now comparing the diesel to the 3V V10. The difference is not that great. I average 4 to 5 MPG less loaded or unloaded than the diesel, tow at max weight 5 MPH slower. I saved 5,000 at purchase and gas is 25 cents less per gallon. (the MPG's would be closer if V10 had 3.73 gears, not 4.10's)

I don't care if the diesel motor can supposedly go 5 million miles. To me the truck will be wore out after 150,000 anyways. I usually get rid of them by then. I am not a diesel nut. I told myself when I was driving the oil burner I would never own another gasser. The troubled 6L scared me away and I think I am going to stick with what I know. These are just my opinions, yours may vary. The V10 works better for ME in MY situation. This seems to be a very touchy subject. People are passionate about their choice of trucks. But go ahead and pick up the dirty green handle at the gas station.

 

terrible milage first long haul
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i bought this f350 6.0 thinking i was going to get better gas milage towing. originally i had a chevy 1500 towing a 8000lb. sportsman trailer. getting around 8 to 9 mpg. i towed this trailer for the first time and got between 9 and 10 mpg with the ford. can some one explain to me why i bought this pile of *****. 500.00 bucks a month does not justify 2 mpg. i ran between 65 and 70 mpg at about 15 psi of boost and 1900 rpm. thatfuel milage is terrible. tried changing the fuel filters and still sucks!!!

 

Just returned from a camping trip. Towed my 27' Camp Trailer with my V10. I haven't weighed the trailer but the tag says 6600 lbs max. With the tanks empty I would assume closer to 6000. I also had firewood rail high about half way back of my short bed, no idea what that weighed. We went up 101 from Ukiah, CA to Crescent City, CA. There are some 6% and 7% grades, not very flat. I got between 7.5mpg and 8.5mpg on each tank and averaged 55-60mph where possible. We usually get 11mpg - 12mpg on flat ground unloaded average driving. I don't have a trip computer in my rig so all calculations are the old fashion method. The trip was awsome between the V10, the Torqueshift, and the integrated brake controller, I almost forgot the truck was loaded. For comparison my brother-in-law towed a coleman tent trailer with his 2500 HD duramax/allison and got 16mpg using the trip computer. Over all I couldn't be happier. Limits on red-tailed perch from the beach on several days was fun too!

 

like i posted nearly 9 months ago. the new v10 will surprise even us diesel owners... but i chose diesel for my own reasons... (my choice)..i dont own a v10 but drive them at work on occasion...so i cant give an HONEST mpg... but i do have HONEST information on the chevy 8.1 in a 03 3/4 ton suburban vs. my 05 f350 6.0.... we go to pismo beach about every 6-7 weeks. we pull a 28' forest river toy hauler. fully loaded we were 10,000#.+/- the suburban with 3.73 gears got 6-8 mpg... my truck pulling 3 x now has averaged 9.9-11.0 mpg.depending on headwinds etc... i imagine the v10 will fall somewhere in the middle..my best mpg unloaded in my 6.0 on the highway is 18.7 going to laughlin, nevada. my average city mpg if i stay out of it..which is hard to do is 13mpg. have a great day.eric.

 

It's all about preference.....jeez, you boys sound like a bunch of women

'I dont like the smell....It's too noisy for me....' OK, so there have been some exaggerated 6L mileage claims on towing, but getting 9-10MPG on the 6L is not normal. I would say a lot of it has to do with the driver. Is this thread limited to the 6L? The '96 gets great fuel mileage when towing the 11,500 5-er, and my grandpas 2001 F-350 with a lot of mods got 14.7 with a combined 23,000lbs, driving through washington, and over a pass, goin to california.
I dont see why this huge bashing threads have to appear every so often.....Nobody is the same, and everybody wants something different. Leave it at that, V10 or diesel, both are Ford, and both will get the job done. All preference.

 

Ken04 you old dog you beat me to it!

I was just locked and cocked to link to that thread of 8hondo's when my eye caught your post.

I guess hondo ain't none too happy with his (new?) Ford truck.

SuperDuty Lee

Welcome to the FTE V10 forum...home of the BSEG!

 

I don't see no stinking bashing, we don't need no stinking bashing,,,seriously, I see some conversation, but no bashing. Most all us V-10'ers have had, or do have diesels, so what's the problemo ? We gotta talk about stuff, how else would we V-10'ers know how cool we were if we didn't tell each other ?

 

Well that's a first, me beating Fred to something, huh uh uh, I must be livin right or sumthin,,,,yuk, yuk, I was actually thinking of you Fred my boy when I did that, heh heh, Ken