Is it how much the truck is supposed to carry ??
I am on my 2nd 3/4 ton and this guy told me all I can carry is 1500 lbs but I told him I put in 3000 lbs ( cement bags) in it and it carry's it no problem and barely sags the back of the truck.
HOWMUCH can I carry ???
05 CC, 4x4, shorty bed, lariat.

 

How do you know your truck is a 3/4 ton?

 

I always thought it was based on the payload capacity but I don't think it was a limit. I have always gone by what it was able to hall and the condition of the rear springs. If they are flat or going down when loaded then it was too much weight.

 

1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, and 1 ton have no meaning today. A long time ago that was how much the truck could carry, but no more. They can carry A LOT more.

The way to find out how much your truck can carry is to get the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) off the blue tag on the driver's door jamb. Then have the truck weighed when unloaded. The difference between the GVWR and the actual weight is how much it can carry.

An F250, commonly called a 3/4 ton, can often carry over a ton. An F350, commonly called a 1 ton, can carry 1 1/2 to two tons, depending on the truck's equipment.

 

what is the payload of a 04 250 4x4 extended cab short box with 6.0 psd the truck has factory helpers on the rear.

 

Look up the GVWR on the blue tag and weigh the truck. The difference between the two is the payload.

 

There are variances from the GVWR minus the weight for weight carrying-isn't there? This calculation may be the legal way to figure it but it is not maximum weight allowed to be carried. I know the truck has the ability to carry more than is legal to carry. My father is an electrical contractor. He has a Chevy 2500 panel van for his hired man. I am not positive on the GVWR, but we registered it as a commercial 6 Ton vehicle (pay more for more weight). I was pulled over a fews years back, and the Highway Patrol said he pulled me over as it looked like I was overweight. He had those portable scales that does one axle at a time and found me to be about 400 pounds under the registered 6 Tons and let me go on my way. I know the vehicle itself cannot be rated as a 12,000 pound vehicle-right? I know he only looked at my registration and insurance and DL, not the vehicle door jamb as I never opened the door the whole time. As of today, my father still has the van registered as 6 tons and he even increased the registration weight of his F150 to 6 Tons from 5. Fines are stiff for going over weight.

 

I found this breakdown on MrTruck webpage. I know there are some model years with certain equipment that don't fit with this but it is a rough guide.

Light Duty Trucks <table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="0" bordercolor="#111111" cellpadding="2" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td width="50%"> 1/2 tons,1500, F150</td> <td width="50%"> Class 1 (Gvw 0 - 6000)</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="0" bordercolor="#111111" cellpadding="2" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td width="50%">3/4 tons, 2500, F250</td> <td width="50%"> Class 2 (Gvw 6001 - 10000) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="0" bordercolor="#111111" cellpadding="2" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td width="50%">1 tons, 3500, F350</td> <td width="50%"> Class 3 (Gvw 10001 - 14000)</td></tr></tbody> </table> Medium Duty Trucks
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="0" bordercolor="#111111" cellpadding="2" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td width="50%"> 1 1/2 tons, C4500, F450</td> <td width="50%"> Class 4 (Gvw 14001 - 16000)</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="0" bordercolor="#111111" cellpadding="2" height="17" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td height="17" width="50%"> C5500, F550</td> <td height="17" width="50%"> Class 5 (Gvw 16001 - 19500)</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="0" bordercolor="#111111" cellpadding="2" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td width="50%"> 2 tons, 6500, 7500, F650, F750
</td> <td width="50%"> Class 6 (Gvw 19501 - 26000)</td></tr></tbody> </table> Heavy Duty Trucks
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="0" bordercolor="#111111" cellpadding="2" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td width="48%"> Semi-trucks
</td> <td width="52%"> Class 7 (Gvw 26001 - 33001)
Class 8 (Gvw 33001 -150000)</td></tr></tbody> </table>

 

No. That's the maximum the truck is designed to carry.

The truck isn't going to break in half if you go over the GVWR. That calculation is the maximum weight that the truck is allowed to carry according to the manufacturer.

All that the registration and weight police care about is collecting their fees. As long as you are below the weight that you have paid for you are legal. They don't care how much the truck weighs, or how long it will last before a failure due to overweight. They are all about collecting fees, also known as taxes.

The GVWR minus the actual weight is still the maximum payload that was designed into the truck.

 

Good info- Thanks Casey
So, I could get fined for going over GVWR in my personal truck, but not the commercial truck as long as the commercial truck is licensed for it but neither are designed for it? I am not trying to be a smartass, rather trying to understand. If the GVWR is the max allowed by desin or safety, paying more does not make me stronger or safer so why would it be allowed? My EX has a GVWR of 8600 but weighs about 7600 pounds empty. I could be over weight with just people. That does not seem right does it? 4 Guys and a tool box would put me at max let alone 8 with golf clubs.

 

No, that doesn't seem right, but it IS right. The Excursion has a GVW of 8800 pounds. A fully loaded truck will run about 7800 pounds without anyone in it! They are not great load haulers.

And why would the state allow more weight than the manufacturer? Because the state is collecting more money by you registering you truck at a higher weight. They are their to collect fees (aka taxes), not to make sure that you are safe. If you have an accident because the truck was overloaded they collect even MORE money, but this time the tax would be called a fine, not a fee.

 

As many have said weigh your truck then subtract that from the door sticker.

But if my memory is correct according to Ford's brochure an 05 F350 DRW Powerstroke 4x4 has about 5200 lb max payload (with a 150lb person and nothing in the truck or gas tank!).

 

the real world limit.
not including the ability to actually stop the load.
rear axle weight rating.

 

In PA, you can not buy a license/registration for a weight higher than the manufacturers GVW, unless you go through the process of re-titling the unit as either a "vehicle manufacturer" or a "re-constructed" vehicle title. If you apply for a "re-constructed" title, the vehicle is subject to a stringent inspection by DOT prior to allowing an increased GVW.

"Vehicle Manufacturers" ( for example - Fire Truck and Ambulance builders and other custom trucks built from bare chassis ) can assign a GVW above that of the original manufacturer, but they are also responsible for the "safety" of that decision.

Outside of legalities, the F-250 has the exact same frame, suspension, brakes, etc. as the F-350 (Single Rear Wheels), the only difference is a 2" riser block on the rear of the f-350s to help level the truck when loaded heavier, yet the sticker on the door indicates a lower GVW for the F-250.

Can you "safely" haul the same load with an F-250 as you would with an F-350, YES. Can you get fined for doing so, YES.

I have an '04 F-250 Crewcab, shortbed with a GVW of 8800lb and an empty weight of something around 7000 lb. Fill it with fuel, put 4 or 5 adults in the cab, and "legally" you can't put much more than a 1/2 ton in the truck bed. However, when you do that, the truck doesn't even begin to look like it is "heavy" and is not likely to attract attention from the weight watchers....

 

W O W Trucks have gotten quite FAT

My 1995 F250 4x2 tares out at 5,780lbs. And has a 8,600lbs weight rating

I can haul 2,820lbs. With it.

This is true and very easy, I quite often put about 2,500lbs. Of pea size rock and or dirt in it and have no rear end sag at all.