which engine in '63 F100 custom cab?
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which engine in '63 F100 custom cab?
I posted this in '61-'66 forum and a guy said to post it here... Several people said it is a 292 but then he said pipe on all '272' up, and that '392' may exist.
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My father left it in my woods 20 years ago; may have had engine swapped before.... I am making alive, all new hydraulics.
Engine has painted (reddish?) oval tag at front lower right corner that, I swear, says '392' (was a little dirty even after I rubbed it clean). So best I could assume it is 390 engine. THEN, I saw photo (on this site?) of SAME engine and it was identified as '292' or 290, as I recall (its been a week).
Most telling design is the exhaust manifolds stick out away from the sides of the heads and am connected in front by a pipe that goes across the front of engine, above water pump. I don't know if Ford did this on everything. (I used to do a lot of import car work (esp. Volvo) and have an old Dodge Power Wagon 4x4).
So, what's with the 392 becomes 390 becomes 292 and cross-over pipe, exiting on right side? Firing order was a little different than book...
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My father left it in my woods 20 years ago; may have had engine swapped before.... I am making alive, all new hydraulics.
Engine has painted (reddish?) oval tag at front lower right corner that, I swear, says '392' (was a little dirty even after I rubbed it clean). So best I could assume it is 390 engine. THEN, I saw photo (on this site?) of SAME engine and it was identified as '292' or 290, as I recall (its been a week).
Most telling design is the exhaust manifolds stick out away from the sides of the heads and am connected in front by a pipe that goes across the front of engine, above water pump. I don't know if Ford did this on everything. (I used to do a lot of import car work (esp. Volvo) and have an old Dodge Power Wagon 4x4).
So, what's with the 392 becomes 390 becomes 292 and cross-over pipe, exiting on right side? Firing order was a little different than book...
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I'm going to guess by your description its a 292 Y block, were there any other numbers on the block?
Block identification number generally on side of block above oil filter for blocks cast at Cleveland. Dearborn block I.D. number near distributor and above generator.
Block identification number generally on side of block above oil filter for blocks cast at Cleveland. Dearborn block I.D. number near distributor and above generator.
Last edited by 56efffie; 07-22-2004 at 07:32 PM.
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Originally Posted by 56efffie
I'm going to guess by your description its a 292 Y block, were there any other numbers on the block?
Block identification number generally on side of block above oil filter for blocks cast at Cleveland. Dearborn block I.D. number near distributor and above generator.
Block identification number generally on side of block above oil filter for blocks cast at Cleveland. Dearborn block I.D. number near distributor and above generator.
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Originally Posted by wallymc
I posted this in '61-'66 forum and a guy said to post it here... Several people said it is a 292 but then he said pipe on all '272' up, and that '392' may exist.
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My father left it in my woods 20 years ago; may have had engine swapped before.... I am making alive, all new hydraulics.
Engine has painted (reddish?) oval tag at front lower right corner that, I swear, says '392' (was a little dirty even after I rubbed it clean). So best I could assume it is 390 engine. THEN, I saw photo (on this site?) of SAME engine and it was identified as '292' or 290, as I recall (its been a week).
Most telling design is the exhaust manifolds stick out away from the sides of the heads and am connected in front by a pipe that goes across the front of engine, above water pump. I don't know if Ford did this on everything. (I used to do a lot of import car work (esp. Volvo) and have an old Dodge Power Wagon 4x4).
So, what's with the 392 becomes 390 becomes 292 and cross-over pipe, exiting on right side? Firing order was a little different than book...
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My father left it in my woods 20 years ago; may have had engine swapped before.... I am making alive, all new hydraulics.
Engine has painted (reddish?) oval tag at front lower right corner that, I swear, says '392' (was a little dirty even after I rubbed it clean). So best I could assume it is 390 engine. THEN, I saw photo (on this site?) of SAME engine and it was identified as '292' or 290, as I recall (its been a week).
Most telling design is the exhaust manifolds stick out away from the sides of the heads and am connected in front by a pipe that goes across the front of engine, above water pump. I don't know if Ford did this on everything. (I used to do a lot of import car work (esp. Volvo) and have an old Dodge Power Wagon 4x4).
So, what's with the 392 becomes 390 becomes 292 and cross-over pipe, exiting on right side? Firing order was a little different than book...
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Originally Posted by Janet40
As i said yesterday, the 64 pickup came out with an all red 292, but there's always a chance someone could have had a reason to change the engine out, ...so to be sure, get your block numbers, that are between the valve cover and the oil pan on the block, then we can make sure....Janet
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I just posted (can't recall title) DUH
Janet et al: I got your post(s) a number of days ago about IDing the block numbers and I haven't gone the 90 miles up to the woods but will soon. I recall you said a 'red' engine. All I said was a reddish oval plate tag in the front right lower corner. The block doesn't look like it was ever red like you say. It is probably a 292 but some guy in the '61-'66 forum said to post here as he said some y-blocks could be the '392' that I swear or almost swear I saw on the tag. Engines could have been changed in Idaho before Camper was put on back in 1968.
Last edited by wallymc; 08-03-2004 at 06:07 PM. Reason: wrong side: left - right
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Originally Posted by wallymc
Janet et al: I got your post(s) a number of days ago about IDing the block numbers and I haven't gone the 90 miles up to the woods but will soon. I recall you said a 'red' engine. All I said was a reddish oval plate tag in the front right lower corner. The block doesn't look like it was ever red like you say. It is probably a 292 but some guy in the '61-'66 forum said to post here as he said some y-blocks could be the '392' that I swear or almost swear I saw on the tag. Engines could have been changed in Idaho before Camper was put on back in 1968.
EDIT: Are you sure the guy didnt make a typing mistake nd mean 292 instead of 392???? Because the largest Yblock i ever heard of, is the Lincoln Yblock that is a 368,...biggest Ford Yblock i have ever heard of is the 312, but for the record,...in 1963 your regular Ford pickup either had a 223 inline six or the 292....Janet
Last edited by Janet40; 08-03-2004 at 07:26 PM.
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#8
I agree with Janet40, I never heard of a 393 Y-Block being discussed there. Perhaps someone's finger missed the 2 and hit the 3. I know, not likely, but sometimes I hit the wrong keyyyyyyy...
Norwood Shelton
Retired Control Systems Engineer
Monroe, LA
1964 F100 , 1955 Customline
Yanmar YM-2000, 1250 Cub Cadet
Norwood Shelton
Retired Control Systems Engineer
Monroe, LA
1964 F100 , 1955 Customline
Yanmar YM-2000, 1250 Cub Cadet
#10
No need to return to the other Forum my man, that description of the crossover pipe over the water pump nailed it. Come join us in spirit as well as metal, these are neat torquey motors that can work, wow, and wail. Do your searches and determine what level of resto or tunin' you can stand
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Originally Posted by Midnite Cruiser
No need to return to the other Forum my man, that description of the crossover pipe over the water pump nailed it. Come join us in spirit as well as metal, these are neat torquey motors that can work, wow, and wail. Do your searches and determine what level of resto or tunin' you can stand
#12
Originally Posted by wallymc
Janet et al: I got your post(s) a number of days ago about IDing the block numbers and I haven't gone the 90 miles up to the woods but will soon. I recall you said a 'red' engine. All I said was a reddish oval plate tag in the front right lower corner. The block doesn't look like it was ever red like you say. It is probably a 292 but some guy in the '61-'66 forum said to post here as he said some y-blocks could be the '392' that I swear or almost swear I saw on the tag. Engines could have been changed in Idaho before Camper was put on back in 1968.
#13
292's-forever
Janet
Got a question for you as you seem to be pretty knowledgeable about these old fords.
My 58 had yellow on almost of the engine including bellhousing.
I remember my 54 Merc 239 was this yellow, is it possible that the engine in the 58 was a 239??? I assumed it was a 272.
rlangs58
Got a question for you as you seem to be pretty knowledgeable about these old fords.
My 58 had yellow on almost of the engine including bellhousing.
I remember my 54 Merc 239 was this yellow, is it possible that the engine in the 58 was a 239??? I assumed it was a 272.
rlangs58
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