351 EFI vs 460 EFI fuel milage?
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Fryguy, I back that theory, old truck 1988 f-350 3:55 38" tires 5.8 litre, 5 spd, present truck 1997 f-350, 4:10 37" tires 7.5 litre, 5 spd . You would think the 88 got better fuel economy "not" .
Same camper, same trip, I get better fuel economy and more power with the new truck (and it's a xtra cab compared to 88 regular cab).
As for actual fuel economy with the 7.5 empty with a tail wind 13/14 mpg.
Fully loaded passing the competition up hills like there are standind still (honestly I dont know ) I guess 6/7 mpg but it's woth it, I come back from a camping trip it takes a week to get that grin of my face.
Regards, Domenico......
Same camper, same trip, I get better fuel economy and more power with the new truck (and it's a xtra cab compared to 88 regular cab).
As for actual fuel economy with the 7.5 empty with a tail wind 13/14 mpg.
Fully loaded passing the competition up hills like there are standind still (honestly I dont know ) I guess 6/7 mpg but it's woth it, I come back from a camping trip it takes a week to get that grin of my face.
Regards, Domenico......
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My experiance involves my E350 15 passenger van. When I got it, it had 122k miles, 351W, C6, stock exhaust & everything. It is a 1 ton van, with 3.55 gears & LT235 85R16 tires. Running empty, with all the seats, I was pulling 12.3 mpg, but had TPS trouble & didnt know it, plus would drop a cylinder when I was trying to push it. I didnt think that was bad, considering how it was running.
It got 9-10 mpg pulling a dolly with a S10. I think it got a little worse, as my TPS went nuts, causing it to idle way to fast (uh, 40 mph!), and causing the EEC to think my foot was about 3/4 of the way down, no matter what. I will also add that my #5 injector was way lean, as evidenced by the white plug tips, as compared to the others that were dark.
I have all that fixed, with true dual exhaust, using 2 aftermarket cats & straight piped. Idle is fine. New O2 sensor. I havent driven it enough since the repairs to give you an actual MPG, but I know it has improved. The engine has quite a bit of blowby, and uses oil, so it is in need of a rebuild. I feel I can hit mid teens when I get everything running right & do some head work.
Hope this story helps.
It got 9-10 mpg pulling a dolly with a S10. I think it got a little worse, as my TPS went nuts, causing it to idle way to fast (uh, 40 mph!), and causing the EEC to think my foot was about 3/4 of the way down, no matter what. I will also add that my #5 injector was way lean, as evidenced by the white plug tips, as compared to the others that were dark.
I have all that fixed, with true dual exhaust, using 2 aftermarket cats & straight piped. Idle is fine. New O2 sensor. I havent driven it enough since the repairs to give you an actual MPG, but I know it has improved. The engine has quite a bit of blowby, and uses oil, so it is in need of a rebuild. I feel I can hit mid teens when I get everything running right & do some head work.
Hope this story helps.
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Take it from a long time 460 owner, the difference in mileage is small, but the driveability of the 460 is superior. I don't tow anything heavy with mine, I just like the throttle response and overall power. On the resale end, most people with a choice seem to want the 460 in the trucks they were offered in.
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Well, here are the disappointing numbers for my beast. Making the trip from Southern Illinois to the Texas Mexico border, towing an S10 with a tow-bar. It pulled a consistant 10.5 - 11 mpg. I found the O2 sensor lead had come off, and reconnected that. I drove another 600 miles with everyting running right, hitting a strong headwind, no trailer, it topped 12mpg. Not very impressive. The engine is still stock, and I havent played with the timing or anything.
I cant understand why a carburated Dodge van, 15 passenger, 3/4 ton, same height tires, well worn 360, 3sp auto, gets 15 plus - using stone age technology, yet my fuel injected van gets only 12!
Just my thoughts ...
I cant understand why a carburated Dodge van, 15 passenger, 3/4 ton, same height tires, well worn 360, 3sp auto, gets 15 plus - using stone age technology, yet my fuel injected van gets only 12!
Just my thoughts ...
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this is a most interesting discussion. I originally wanted a F250 with 351W or some small block like that.
I ended up with the big block 7.5. It of course gets predictable 9 in mixed and 11-2/3 on highway driving.
No experience with 351W but from what I hear, it gets about 13mpg on the average in an identical heavy duty truck.
Really, disappointing. But not that surprising. I think that Chevy 350 is also gets pretty poor mileage in a 1 ton truck.
I ended up with the big block 7.5. It of course gets predictable 9 in mixed and 11-2/3 on highway driving.
No experience with 351W but from what I hear, it gets about 13mpg on the average in an identical heavy duty truck.
Really, disappointing. But not that surprising. I think that Chevy 350 is also gets pretty poor mileage in a 1 ton truck.
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My 1/2 ton with 351/C6 got around 10 with the Holley, and a best of 13.3 since I changed to the Q-jet, but still far from great. In my experience, the 350 powered Chevies I've driven did better than that, but I don't know what the gearing was on them. The Ford has 3.00 gears, so I wouldn't think they'd be much higher than that, although the Ford has better low-end grunt. As far as old-tech goes, I'm still trying to figure out whey my Dad's old carbed 300 I-6 got 21-23 Mpgs with a 2.73 and three on the tree, while neither of our injected sixes(both with overdrive) will get over 16-17. I have seen larger engines get the same of better mileage than a smaller one, simply because they aren't being pushed as hard to do the same job. With my lousy mileage, I'm getting tempted to star looking for a 460. If I'm going to burn that much fuel, I might as well have some fun with it.
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