Ford owns commins... but Dodge uses the engine, and Ford cant use it till Dodge is done with it... does it bother anyone else?


Nascar Junkie

 

I belive we had this argument a while ago and determined that ford long ago sold all its interest in cummins, effectivly meaning that it no longer owns it.

 

since neither company is about to come install one in my truck, I could care less

 

Ford does not own any part of Cummins.

 

I really want to know this; does ford really own Cummins?? I've heard it does, and it dosen't about equal amounts of time. I didn't think they did.

 

You can find out what ford owns here:
http://www.ford.com/en/company/inves...ls/default.htm

Ford does not list Cummins as one of their "Brands" here: http://www.ford.com/en/company/about/brands/default.htm

 

Cummins is NOT owned by Ford or anyone else, but just signed a deal with Ford to put engines in their trucks. Last year Cummins installed a diesel in to the Durango and they drive it around 24 hours a day around the city and interstate on set route waiting for the engine to quit. It has over a million miles on it and still counting.

Every few years they let folks bring their trucks to town and WILL swap any Cummins engine with over a million miles on it. That is pretty cool of them to give you a brand new one, so they can tear your old one apart and look at it. To my knowledge only one person has taken them up on it, twice.

 

Apparantely its going to take a LONG TIME for everyone to finally understand beyond any and all doubts that Ford Motor Co., does not now, and never has," EVER" owned Cummins Corp.

Once upon a time, long, long ago, Ford had purchased a mere 10% stock in the company-that does not constitute ownership-nor even a significant influence in the directives of company policy.

Ford no longer even has this 10% stock anymore. Ford can't use it's own engine, cause' they licensed it to Dodge?...lol. Come' on
man, do you think for a minute that Ford would ever do this? You think if Ford had rights to the ISB, that they would stick their own customers with the 6.0, and continue to allow Dodge to market their trucks with the best diesel ever put into a pickup? The Cummins ISB is by far the best diesel going-theres NEVER been a better diesel available in the pickup truck market, and there probably never will be. It's been the engine by which all others have been judged.

In fact the only reason Ford is able to offer it as an option at all in their med duty trucks is because Dodge is not in that market. But should they ever decide to enter that market,it's doubtful that Ford would be able to offer the ISB anymore since they would be in direct competition with Dodge as they are now in the pickup market.
And for those of you that like to make the claim that the International T-444-E(7.3LPSD) is also a med duty truck engine equivelent to the Cummins-keep this in mind, - Ford also offered the PSD in med duty trucks as standard, but you could pay more to get the Cummins ISB as an UPGRADE.

Also this new 6.0PSD is NOT a med duty engine, while it is manufactured by International, it was DESIGNED specifically for the Ford SuperDuty trucks-meaning its classed as a LIGHT DUTY automotive engine-whereas the Cummins ISB remains a MEDIUM DUTY commercial engine.

That ought to clarify things......

 

let this end this chapter of this debate yet again.

http://www.cummins.com/na/pages/en/c...0880C4A8F00000

 

LONG LIVE THE POWERSTROKE!!!

 

well, dodge got some kind of lease to the engine and after they did, Ford bought cummins. that is what i hear from everyone. my friends are die hard on Dodge and they admitt that Ford owns cummins. my other friend(die hard ford guy like me) ALSO thinks that ford bought cummins co. and owns it. how did that rumor get started. lol, yes, go powerstroke!

 

Ford owns Cummins?

Really?

 

yes, it does. i KNOW it does, not matter what anyone else says...


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