If F250s and F350s are the same truck, why does Ford build both?
#46
This thread would have been extremely helpful a few months ago!! I did all the math prior to buying our 250 (had my own excel sheet going) and the numbers didn't make sense. I also came to the conclusion I should not be towing over 10k (or maybe it was 9k) due to payload capacity. As I could not find this sort of information on my own (patience may have been the main problem) I ended up calling the experts. The guy that I trusted most said the worst that will happen is your transmission will go out. I'm now towing a 13 - 13.5k 5er but have yet to weigh it, dry weight is 12k. It tows great...straight as an arrow. Stops great, accelerates great, etc. The other thing this guy told me was the tow ratings are written by lawyers and not engineers? Perhaps not true....but it helped me feel comfortable moving forward with the F250.
I also didn't even look at the F350's as I thought they would be an extra 5-10k! I have bad experiences buying used so was only considering new. After I drove my truck home i made the mistake of looking at 350's. Doing that made me a bit sick at the time. However, at this point I think I'm ok with what I got.
Anyway....thanks for all the effort putting this thread together!
I also didn't even look at the F350's as I thought they would be an extra 5-10k! I have bad experiences buying used so was only considering new. After I drove my truck home i made the mistake of looking at 350's. Doing that made me a bit sick at the time. However, at this point I think I'm ok with what I got.
Anyway....thanks for all the effort putting this thread together!
#47
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Finally, for me, 7,000# becomes the hard limit of what I put on my rear axle due to the hard limit of the wheels. At 7,000 I have very little margin left on the rims. Am I contradicting myself by setting a personal limit on one weight rating (the rims) while scoffing at others? For me, I believe the F-250 is derated on paper in an effort to market it to:
- people don't want to pay a higher fee for registration and inspection
- people who may fall subject to a CDL
- people who are intimidated by buying an F-350 and think it's too much truck
- people like me who didn't know any better -- a new thread coming on that...
Versus, I believe the weight ratings that are attached to the individual components that are on my truck -- especially when they are on the F-350 with the higher ratings.
Finally, for me, 7,000# becomes the hard limit of what I put on my rear axle due to the hard limit of the wheels. At 7,000 I have very little margin left on the rims. Am I contradicting myself by setting a personal limit on one weight rating (the rims) while scoffing at others? For me, I believe the F-250 is derated on paper in an effort to market it to:
- people don't want to pay a higher fee for registration and inspection
- people who may fall subject to a CDL
- people who are intimidated by buying an F-350 and think it's too much truck
- people like me who didn't know any better -- a new thread coming on that...
Versus, I believe the weight ratings that are attached to the individual components that are on my truck -- especially when they are on the F-350 with the higher ratings.
#48
This thread would have been extremely helpful a few months ago!! I did all the math prior to buying our 250 (had my own excel sheet going) and the numbers didn't make sense. I also came to the conclusion I should not be towing over 10k (or maybe it was 9k) due to payload capacity. As I could not find this sort of information on my own (patience may have been the main problem) I ended up calling the experts. The guy that I trusted most said the worst that will happen is your transmission will go out. I'm now towing a 13 - 13.5k 5er but have yet to weigh it, dry weight is 12k. It tows great...straight as an arrow. Stops great, accelerates great, etc. The other thing this guy told me was the tow ratings are written by lawyers and not engineers? Perhaps not true....but it helped me feel comfortable moving forward with the F250.
I also didn't even look at the F350's as I thought they would be an extra 5-10k! I have bad experiences buying used so was only considering new. After I drove my truck home i made the mistake of looking at 350's. Doing that made me a bit sick at the time. However, at this point I think I'm ok with what I got.
Anyway....thanks for all the effort putting this thread together!
I also didn't even look at the F350's as I thought they would be an extra 5-10k! I have bad experiences buying used so was only considering new. After I drove my truck home i made the mistake of looking at 350's. Doing that made me a bit sick at the time. However, at this point I think I'm ok with what I got.
Anyway....thanks for all the effort putting this thread together!
You have a 2016 right? Your transmission will not be going out.
#50
Your earlier posts pointed out that from the spec sheets, you found that the wheels were rated for 3,590 pounds. This comes out to 7,190 pounds for the pair, the same for the F250 SRW as the F350 SRW. How great a Rear Axle load are you planning to put on this vehicle?
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#53
I just skipped on all the math and got what I needed. I just took a trip with my 16K 5th wheel and F350 DRW. Drove from Pensacola, FL to Lake Guntersville AL outside of Huntsville), then through the Smokey Mountains to Charlotte, NC, then to Columbia, SC , to Atlanta, GA and back home. Truck pulled great an RV did great. At times I had to look in the mirror to make sure the 5th wheel was still there.
#54
I just skipped on all the math and got what I needed. I just took a trip with my 16K 5th wheel and F350 DRW. Drove from Pensacola, FL to Lake Guntersville AL outside of Huntsville), then through the Smokey Mountains to Charlotte, NC, then to Columbia, SC , to Atlanta, GA and back home. Truck pulled great an RV did great. At times I had to look in the mirror to make sure the 5th wheel was still there.
#55
I had esurance for all of my vehicles including my 05 F-250....when I traded for the 12 F-350, insurance wouldn't cover it....They had no answer for me and I'm still curious as to why.....the difference in curb weight of the 2 trucks was only 100lbs. GVRW for the F-250 was 9600 and for the F-350 10500....could it be because the F-350 had a GVWR of over 10000lbs?
Side note fun fact: In NY, anything with a curb weight of 5500lbs or over is required to be registered with commercial plates.
Side note fun fact: In NY, anything with a curb weight of 5500lbs or over is required to be registered with commercial plates.
#56
I had esurance for all of my vehicles including my 05 F-250....when I traded for the 12 F-350, insurance wouldn't cover it....They had no answer for me and I'm still curious as to why.....the difference in curb weight of the 2 trucks was only 100lbs. GVRW for the F-250 was 9600 and for the F-350 10500....could it be because the F-350 had a GVWR of over 10000lbs?
Side note fun fact: In NY, anything with a curb weight of 5500lbs or over is required to be registered with commercial plates.
Side note fun fact: In NY, anything with a curb weight of 5500lbs or over is required to be registered with commercial plates.
Steve
#57
I had esurance for all of my vehicles including my 05 F-250....when I traded for the 12 F-350, insurance wouldn't cover it....They had no answer for me and I'm still curious as to why.....the difference in curb weight of the 2 trucks was only 100lbs. GVRW for the F-250 was 9600 and for the F-350 10500....could it be because the F-350 had a GVWR of over 10000lbs?
Side note fun fact: In NY, anything with a curb weight of 5500lbs or over is required to be registered with commercial plates.
Side note fun fact: In NY, anything with a curb weight of 5500lbs or over is required to be registered with commercial plates.
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