The 10k package is a point of confusion. The reason it is there is some regions of the country have a weight class cut off at 10,001lbs and up being a noticeably higher registration class as well as other regulations (safety inspections, license to drive, etc).

Why it is a point of confusion is that the regular rating, for example on my 2011 F350 CC LB SRW 6.7 is 11,500 - that is 1500lbs more than the 10k package. If I got the 10k package it would derate the GVWR sticker down from 11,500 to 10,000lbs. Though the truck is physically the same, the manufacturers sticker shows 10,000lbs and not 11,500lbs so that you can register your vehicle, in the regions of the country that have the 10,001lbs and up consideration, as a 10,000lbs and under vehicle.

The other big catch to this is that 10k weight is the weight that the 4 tires of the truck push on the ground combined. In just the truck by itself there are times I run at over 11,000lbs. With a 10k package, even before adding a trailer (tongue weight), I would be illegal as per the manufacturers GVWR rating of the truck.

So like 2009kr says - you are very likely over your ratings. Check your numbers. Put your rig on the scales. If you have access to a commercial scale at work spend an hour out there and get all the weights you can. Our scale isn't per axle, its a combined weight scale for loaded semis. You can get all your axle weights with it though - start one axle at a time, write the weight down, add an axle, write the weight down, etc. Then go back and subtract the previous axles weights. The hard one is pin weight - have to disconnect and remove the truck, either with the trailer on the scale or the trailer parked and the truck on the scale - if you want to get as accurate of a weight as you can. Otherwise you can weigh the 2 truck axles one day and weigh the loaded combo another. If you have to do your weights at a truck stop and pay - they do first weighs and re-weighs discounted. Pick an off-peak time (middle of the night is usually OK) so as to not tie up any semis. The truck stop scales are nice as they will break the weights by axles. You may be able to pull through once, get a weight, then drop the landing gear and disconnect (never moving the truck out of the scale) for a second weight - just make sure the landing gear and trailer axles are on one pad, or two as long as the rear axle of the truck is not on the same pad as the landing gear.

 

Interesting.

I was looking at the 2012 brochure and there was a 9k and 10k gvrw package for the truck. I did buy the truck in Washington. It looks like I will just have to buy a new F450.

I will. Hit the scales on Memorial Day weekend. The RV is put away for the winter up here.

Steve, I'm running the truck as you too.

 

 

There she is in the above pictures, that payload is cutting it close but I'll manage

 

Congrats! Looks great. Looking forward to seeing the truck and RV together!

 

yes I am too!

 

Anyone here in California know if in order to pass the non comercial class a driving test if they ask you to weight both vehicles the tow and fifth wheel and if they sweat you on the payload or anything like this . Thanks for everyone's help

 

I took my test 2 years ago, and they don't weigh your rig. They do record the truck and trailer GVWR's. You will need to have another Class A or Non Commercial Class A driver ride with you for the drive to the test station. First thing they did when I checked in for the test was to ask for my Class A driver and he had to show his license for my test to proceed. I can go into more detail about the test if you want me to.

Rich

 

thanks rich I appreciate the info I have my father in law who will help me with the drive test .

 

well here you have it we whent to pick up our scorpion 4014 by Winnebago today , the b&w slider hitch wasn't in stock so we have to come back Wednesday to pick up . Instead we filled out paper and whent through a thorough walk around

 

 

This is my Winnebago 4014

 

sure looks nice! Did you test all the appliance and AC and leveling systems?

 

Looks great! It must be a killer not to be able to drag her home... Scotts right. Try and quell the excitement and put every system through it's paces.

 

Yeah big time I was there for 4hrs trying out everything going through procedures learning not to dump the black water back up my grey system . How to change my oil on the gen. It's a lot to take in . "With great power comes greater responsibility" haha