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Old 05-28-2016, 12:50 PM
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looking for offroader

needing a serious offroad machine. go anywhere do anything type of truck. not just decals on the bed and a skidplate. does ford have anything comparable to the new ram powerwagon ?
 
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Old 05-28-2016, 12:55 PM
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The closest is the Ford Raptor.
 
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Old 05-28-2016, 01:32 PM
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I think ram has this market cornered! Raptor great but can't tow or haul
 
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:19 PM
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If you were that serious of "go anywhere, do anything" type of truck guy, you'd already know the answer your question.


I caught a thread on RV.net where the guy was lamenting the lack of payload on a PowerWagon. I think both manufacturers give up some payload and towing capability in return for a compliant suspension. Both are neat trucks, but Ram would sell a lot more PowerWagons to loggers in the Pacific Northwest if they would put a diesel in it....but that would further cut into their payload ratings.


Good luck.
 
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Yep, no diesel in the PowerWagon. When I was looking for a new truck in late 2006 had there been a diesel in the PowerWagon it would have been a done deal.

From a 2014 Road & Track article about a diesel PowerWagon:
The big Cummins is powerful but terminally heavy. The Power Wagon already weighs over 7000 lbs with its 6.4-liter gasoline V8, and shoving a cast-iron inline-six in the nose wasn't going to help the truck's off-road prowess. Throw in the fact that the 6.7 is a long engine, and there wasn't room for the 12,000-lb Warn winch behind the bumper.
 
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Old 05-29-2016, 12:45 PM
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The PowerWagon is not all that it is cracked up to be. It's entire off road credentials consist of the front and rear lockers, the one anti-sway disconnect, and the GoodYear Duratracs. The tires are only 33" tall.

Install a Detroit or ARB front locker in a Super Duty, manually disconnect the sway bar, and install more aggressive tires: instant PowerWagon plus you can have a diesel.
 
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For dedicated off road use, neither the power wagon or any modified super duty are going to be the best. A smaller footprint is muct better.

What ELSE are you needing or wanting in this truck? Do you want to tow or haul large payloads? Do you want it to be huge and tall with monster truck tires?

Just saying "go anywhere" isn't actually that helpful.
 
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Old 05-29-2016, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by seventyseven250
For dedicated off road use, neither the power wagon or any modified super duty are going to be the best. A smaller footprint is muct better.

What ELSE are you needing or wanting in this truck? Do you want to tow or haul large payloads? Do you want it to be huge and tall with monster truck tires?

Just saying "go anywhere" isn't actually that helpful.
Full size trucks have the advantage of readily accepting larger tires as well as being more "heavy duty" in terms of axles and having the horsepower to turn said larger tires. These are expensive upgrades not needed on a Super Duty or PowerWagon that would be needed on something like a Jeep. I agree the smaller footprint can ease access to tighter trails, but sometimes the longer wheelbase can help as well.
 
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Well, in any event, the OP hasn't given us enough information to really help him.
 
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Detroit lockers suck since they cant be manually engaged/disengaged at will. I cant imagine crawling under the truck to unbolt the sway bar. sounds like a pain in the ****. theres also one other thing, the wagons axle articulation. I believe it scored just a bit over 500 on the rti. I would be very surprised if any full size 3/4 ton with heavy duty suspension scored much over 400
 
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no I hate monster tires. the jeep would be nice but a dirtbike wont fit in the back seat
 
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Originally Posted by peewee jones
Detroit lockers suck since they cant be manually engaged/disengaged at will. I cant imagine crawling under the truck to unbolt the sway bar. sounds like a pain in the ****. theres also one other thing, the wagons axle articulation. I believe it scored just a bit over 500 on the rti. I would be very surprised if any full size 3/4 ton with heavy duty suspension scored much over 400
Well, get the ARB I suggested then. Just leave the sway bar permanently disconnected...I've done it, not that bad. Or the aftermarket sells disconnects. Super Duty will pretty much articulate the same
 
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