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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
From his picture, it appears that's already been done before. The front is to the right in the picture, and the starter hits from the rear. The teeth are worse on the front than the rear.

Obscurity, what size clutch do you have? Which trans?
It is a 4 speed non synchro box (floor shift). I'm not sure about the clutch as I have never had it out. I also have not researched what was standard on an F3 either.
 
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The crashboxes all had 11" clutches, AFAIK. Check your PMs.
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
The crashboxes all had 11" clutches, AFAIK. Check your PMs.

I think you are right. In looking at the Manual it appears almost everything had an 11 inch clutch except F1s and F7 and F8s
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
The crashboxes all had 11" clutches, AFAIK. Check your PMs.

I think you are right. In looking at the Manual it appears almost everything had an 11 inch clutch except F1s and F7 and F8s
 
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Originally Posted by ben73058
Hey John,
If you can rebuild a Porsche 914 .... You got this! It's always a test
of your patience when you start unraveling one thing only to find something
else that's the root cause of the problem. Hang in there - you are doing great!

Ben in Austin
1950 F1
Thank you! To be fair the 914 is still in process 8)
 
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Where do you jack the engine

Where should I jack the engine to get at the flywheel. Below the oil drain plug and plate or behind it?
 
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I'd use a 2x4 or 2x6 across the pan as far back as you can put it without it slipping off. Depending on your exhaust system, you may need to loosen it at the manifold(s) so the engine can tilt forward without cracking the manifold flange. You need to pull the starter and starter plate, too.
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
I'd use a 2x4 or 2x6 across the pan as far back as you can put it without it slipping off. Depending on your exhaust system, you may need to loosen it at the manifold(s) so the engine can tilt forward without cracking the manifold flange. You need to pull the starter and starter plate, too.
I was trying to get the transmission off first the the bell but maybe that is a mistake. So far I have the clutch, coupler/drive shafts, speedometer cable, two crossmember bolts and eight bolts between the bell and transmission diconnected but it does not want to budge.
 
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It's easier if you take the trans mount completely out (the horseshoe shaped mount). And undo the clutch cover from the engine block, take it all out at once. No question the 4-sp is a tight fit. Raising the back of the engine up helps.
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
It's easier if you take the trans mount completely out (the horseshoe shaped mount). And undo the clutch cover from the engine block, take it all out at once. No question the 4-sp is a tight fit. Raising the back of the engine up helps.
Well this thing looks like hell, more gunk on it than I expected. Some of this might be 1949 gunk.


 
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OK what's the trick with the flywheel? I'm not sure I have ever seen a puller the size of the one in the manual.
 
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Is your truck an F-1? That's an F-2/3 style trans mount. It should have been easy to pull.

No puller needed for the flywheel, just take all the bolts loose, but not out, then pull the flywheel back. If it's stuck a little, pry around the edge with a crowbar, between the flywheel and a solid part of the block. When it's almost off the crank, grab hold of the flywheel and remove the bolts completely. IT'S HEAVY!! Don't let it fall on you or the ground!!
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Is your truck an F-1? That's an F-2/3 style trans mount. It should have been easy to pull.

No puller needed for the flywheel, just take all the bolts loose, but not out, then pull the flywheel back. If it's stuck a little, pry around the edge with a crowbar, between the flywheel and a solid part of the block. When it's almost off the crank, grab hold of the flywheel and remove the bolts completely. IT'S HEAVY!! Don't let it fall on you or the ground!!
It's off. I don't know if it looks good or not but here it is.


 
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Also the clutch appears to be 11 inches. How can you tell when these things are worn out is it a thickness?


 
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They're too thin if the rivets are hitting. It doesn't look that bad, but is that something greasy sitting on it? That will ruin it. And do you want to pull the trans again to replace the disc or release bearing?? Do it now if you can afford it.

Those teeth are really hammered!
 


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