Question of the Week: Standard 10-speed - Good or Bad?
#16
What's the final drive ratio for the existing 6 speed? I'm running at 1,600 rpm with the 3.55 rear at 60mph, so the 3.15 rear is going to be much lower. It seems like these engines are already lugging going down the highway, so I don't see there being that much of a MPG improvement.
I'll be the forum skeptic in this. There are no magic bullets left to increase mileage. If a 10-speed could increase mileage better than moving to an AL body, Ford would have poured the resources into it first. But all we got out of the AL change was a 1mpg increase. I've been wrong before and will be again (just watch)...hopefully I'm wrong here too
I'll be the forum skeptic in this. There are no magic bullets left to increase mileage. If a 10-speed could increase mileage better than moving to an AL body, Ford would have poured the resources into it first. But all we got out of the AL change was a 1mpg increase. I've been wrong before and will be again (just watch)...hopefully I'm wrong here too
The 10 speed will feature a granny 1st gear and 3 OD gears.
Is it a MPG improvement? Likely not, maybe .1mpg improvement.
Josh
#17
I think the hemi picked up about 1 mpg going to the new tranny, but drivability improved. Like someone mentioned, any additional mpg's are going to be in small increments.
I have driven a couple of 2.7 ecoboosts and really like the engine, and will probably buy one in 2018...with the 10 speed transmission.
#19
They work great on snowmobiles and go karts, just not cars yet.
#20
JCB Fastrac tractors have a heavy duty CVT. So it might just be that it's expensive to get the durability in the compact size pickups need. Besides they need to make the feel of them better and not sloppy.
They work great on snowmobiles and go karts, just not cars yet.
They work great on snowmobiles and go karts, just not cars yet.
On the other hand, when my wife was replacing here 2001 Subie 2 years ago she wanted another Subie, so we drove two different models of them. Both had CVT's and we were shocked at how sloppy they were. Hit the throttle and the R's jumped, but not the speed, which finally started climbing slowly. I was afraid to mention it to her as I knew she wanted a Subie, but she told me should couldn't stand that transmission.
#21
I remember being given a CR-V as a loaner with a CVT last year and really liking it. But neither the CR-V nor the Murano are rated to pull anything close to what a modern pickup is, so whether or not that kind of design would hold up is in question. I'd be all for it if they could pull it off though.
#22
My Murano was rated for 3500 lbs, towing. But, I never towed anything with it, so I don't know how it would have done.
Actually, we had a situation come up where we needed to take a large load of furniture from OK to DE, and looked at renting a U-Haul and towing it with the Murano. But, I wasn't comfortable doing that as the total weight of the furniture probable was 1,000 and an enclosed trailer large enough to take it might be 2,000, placing us very close to the limit. Instead, my wife suggested we take Dad's truck, and I jumped at the chance. It made it fine with nary a problem, and I got to drive the truck 3,500 miles.
Actually, we had a situation come up where we needed to take a large load of furniture from OK to DE, and looked at renting a U-Haul and towing it with the Murano. But, I wasn't comfortable doing that as the total weight of the furniture probable was 1,000 and an enclosed trailer large enough to take it might be 2,000, placing us very close to the limit. Instead, my wife suggested we take Dad's truck, and I jumped at the chance. It made it fine with nary a problem, and I got to drive the truck 3,500 miles.
#24
Given equal engines and rear gears, the new 10 speed will eke a little mileage over the current 6, but not much. MFG's are reaching for the last little bit available and more efficiency around town is going to be the 10 speeds area.
I suspect the new 10 speed will really shine when put up against the EPA's city/hwy dyno....hard to beat a couple of big numbers on the window sticker.....even if you'll never see those numbers in real life.
I suspect the new 10 speed will really shine when put up against the EPA's city/hwy dyno....hard to beat a couple of big numbers on the window sticker.....even if you'll never see those numbers in real life.
#25
#27
The new 10-speed would do even better with it's wider ratio spread. I could see another 1,000 lbs of towing capacity for my application because of the greater ability to get the load moving.
#28
#29
I have a long steep driveway. Getting my travel trailer up the drive is my biggest concern when we head out loaded. I know the 3.5 EB would do a better job then my 2009 5.4. But add to that the lower gearing of the first gear of the new ten speed and it shoul be the best combination to get my load started up the drive. I am looking forward to a test drive.