V code/C code springs from ATS Springs
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V code/C code springs from ATS Springs
So I bought a 2001 V10 4x4 with stock suspension--112K miles in great shape. I'm going to be towing around 10,000lbs. from GA to IA around 4X/year, and using it as a family hauler the rest of the time (wife and 5 kids).
I read until I was blue in the face on what I needed to do to make this thing live up to its potential when towing and be stable, safe, and a pleasure to drive.
I put new Michelin LTX M/S2 265/75R16s on it, replaced the ball joints, put Monroe Reflex shocks on it, added a rear Hellwig sway bar and just ordered replacement springs.
After seeing recommendations on here for ATS springs, and talking with Junior from ATS Springs, he recommended V codes on the front with C codes on the rear, so I ordered them.
I have since read that aftermarket spring codes don't reflect the same spring capacity as Ford F250/350 codes, and now I'm wondering what, if anything, did I gain by ordering the aftermarket V codes for the front. I was told the ATS V codes had a capacity of 2230 each, and now I'm seeing a Ford chart that true Ford V codes have a capacity of 2600 each.
Did I mess up? Somebody reassure me that I'm going to be OK with these ATS V codes/C codes and will see drastic improvement in the handling/wandering. Or should I hold off on having them installed and get the 'real things' from Ford.
I read until I was blue in the face on what I needed to do to make this thing live up to its potential when towing and be stable, safe, and a pleasure to drive.
I put new Michelin LTX M/S2 265/75R16s on it, replaced the ball joints, put Monroe Reflex shocks on it, added a rear Hellwig sway bar and just ordered replacement springs.
After seeing recommendations on here for ATS springs, and talking with Junior from ATS Springs, he recommended V codes on the front with C codes on the rear, so I ordered them.
I have since read that aftermarket spring codes don't reflect the same spring capacity as Ford F250/350 codes, and now I'm wondering what, if anything, did I gain by ordering the aftermarket V codes for the front. I was told the ATS V codes had a capacity of 2230 each, and now I'm seeing a Ford chart that true Ford V codes have a capacity of 2600 each.
Did I mess up? Somebody reassure me that I'm going to be OK with these ATS V codes/C codes and will see drastic improvement in the handling/wandering. Or should I hold off on having them installed and get the 'real things' from Ford.
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So I bought a 2001 V10 4x4 with stock suspension--112K miles in great shape. I'm going to be towing around 10,000lbs. from GA to IA around 4X/year, and using it as a family hauler the rest of the time (wife and 5 kids).
I read until I was blue in the face on what I needed to do to make this thing live up to its potential when towing and be stable, safe, and a pleasure to drive.
I put new Michelin LTX M/S2 265/75R16s on it, replaced the ball joints, put Monroe Reflex shocks on it, added a rear Hellwig sway bar and just ordered replacement springs.
After seeing recommendations on here for ATS springs, and talking with Junior from ATS Springs, he recommended V codes on the front with C codes on the rear, so I ordered them.
I have since read that aftermarket spring codes don't reflect the same spring capacity as Ford F250/350 codes, and now I'm wondering what, if anything, did I gain by ordering the aftermarket V codes for the front. I was told the ATS V codes had a capacity of 2230 each, and now I'm seeing a Ford chart that true Ford V codes have a capacity of 2600 each.
Did I mess up? Somebody reassure me that I'm going to be OK with these ATS V codes/C codes and will see drastic improvement in the handling/wandering. Or should I hold off on having them installed and get the 'real things' from Ford.
I read until I was blue in the face on what I needed to do to make this thing live up to its potential when towing and be stable, safe, and a pleasure to drive.
I put new Michelin LTX M/S2 265/75R16s on it, replaced the ball joints, put Monroe Reflex shocks on it, added a rear Hellwig sway bar and just ordered replacement springs.
After seeing recommendations on here for ATS springs, and talking with Junior from ATS Springs, he recommended V codes on the front with C codes on the rear, so I ordered them.
I have since read that aftermarket spring codes don't reflect the same spring capacity as Ford F250/350 codes, and now I'm wondering what, if anything, did I gain by ordering the aftermarket V codes for the front. I was told the ATS V codes had a capacity of 2230 each, and now I'm seeing a Ford chart that true Ford V codes have a capacity of 2600 each.
Did I mess up? Somebody reassure me that I'm going to be OK with these ATS V codes/C codes and will see drastic improvement in the handling/wandering. Or should I hold off on having them installed and get the 'real things' from Ford.
WELCOME to the world of XXXs Your off to a GREAT start it would seem.
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BigBlueX: Junior at ATS said that I didn't need the X's if I didn't want the added lift--which I didn't. He said if I had gone with the X's up front then I would have had to add a block to the back. He said my simplest fix for stability and improved towing was to add V's up front and the C's in the rear, which would maintain the even to slightly high rear end.
Also, I just went and drove it at the garage after they added the rear Hellwig sway bar, but before they change the springs. Drives like a different vehicle around sharp curves and when turning in town. Wow--huge improvement. Can't wait to see the total difference with springs replaced.
The X also had an annoying 'rattle' under the front end when going over small bumps or when driving on dirt/gravel roads. I replaced the front sway bar bushings and link bushings with a kit from Energy Suspension, and the rattle is completely gone. Sounds like a new ride.
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Welcome to the forums! With the non modded c codes it will sit correctly with their v code front springs. With the modded c code rears you pretty much need the x code fronts to keep it level. I love my ATS springs now that they are "broken in". They went through a noisy period where they squeaked pretty good, but after 3k miles they have settled and ride quiet. Towing heavy with the new springs is a much better experience and the swaybar is also a great addition. Pics when you are through!
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Ruben,
The springs are being swapped today at the garage--I'm not doing it myself. I will post pics and measurements of before and after, along with noticeable handling/driving changes once the swap is done.
There were no part #'s from ATS on the invoice. Just the descriptions "replacement V code leaf spring, Front and replacement C code leaf spring, Rear".
The springs are being swapped today at the garage--I'm not doing it myself. I will post pics and measurements of before and after, along with noticeable handling/driving changes once the swap is done.
There were no part #'s from ATS on the invoice. Just the descriptions "replacement V code leaf spring, Front and replacement C code leaf spring, Rear".
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No KIT,No just pull it off the shelf...CALL Jr. at ATS & discus your personal desires & goals. He'll fix you up.
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To address your initial concern in a little more detail, that was primarily referring to SDTruckSprings.com. Their literature states they're the same springs as the F250/350, but the rates are noticeably lower when compared. People that have done the V/C or X/C swap from SD have had measurably different results in handling and ride height compared to ATS, at least from what I've seen floating around here and other forums.
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To address your initial concern in a little more detail, that was primarily referring to SDTruckSprings.com. Their literature states they're the same springs as the F250/350, but the rates are noticeably lower when compared. People that have done the V/C or X/C swap from SD have had measurably different results in handling and ride height compared to ATS, at least from what I've seen floating around here and other forums.