The L&L is a little over the top with a NHRA billet flywheel but it seems *your only option* if you have a mechanical clutch and the shallow 351M/400 bellhousing.

L&L has a lock on that backspaced zero balanced flywheel.

A 460 bell from a T-19 has a boss for an external hydraulic slave cylinder.
460's never came with a manual until hydraulic clutches in 1983.

 

I just want a good clutch for the $, not a lot of $$ so the L&L has to be good one, way of thinking.

I talked to the owner of a very reputable machine shop here in Missouri that do a lot od 460's and he suggested the LUK clutch. I am just trying to get some more experienced opinions on the matter.

 

You have a mechanical clutch and a 351M/400 bellhousing, correct?
You have an internally balanced 460 -from before 1979- correct?

So you have a shallow bellhousing and need a zero balanced flywheel.

The L&L solution is the only one that will fit.

There is no stock 460 flywheel that is neutral balanced because they started in 1983... after the 1979 change to external balance.

A regular 460 pressure plate on a 390 flywheel is too tall to fit in a 351M/400 bellhousing.

This is why L&L make a kit with a special flywheel.

I have used Hayes, Zoom, Luk, Centerforce, Sachs, Exedy, Valeo and Surflex clutches.
I am going with Luk this time because of price and past experience.

 

You can buy the special flywheel alone for the low, low price of $379.


http://www.landlproducts.com/details.aspx?cID=7&BP=0&scID=130&ItemID=1042

 

Rich, he is right, L and L is the only way to go when it comes to the flywheel. Even if you had an externally balanced 460, DO NOT try to use a flywheel from a 80s model motor. There is not enough room due to the thickness as stated above. Also, saw in the other thread in this section you are talking about buying the L and L rear sump oil pan for $350+. I hope you haven't ordered it yet. Go to Summit Racing and look for a 460 swap rear sump pan for a fox body mustang. It is Ford Motorsports Brand. I think mine was about $150. It includes oil pump and pickup IIRC. Hope that helps.

 

Hmmmm...now that I just went to Summit, I can not find the pan.

 

Well as of now the truck has a running 460 and a shifting NP-435 4spd....so what ever the PO used is working as far as the flywheel, clutch, bell housing.

I do have some clutch chatter though it might be the throw out bearing, so I figured I might as well replace the clutch pack since I have the motor pulled out.

Bigdan thanks for the Summit lead I am looking as I type.... http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-6675-a460

The L&L set up comes with a Melling HV oil pump, Melling HD pump d/s, thread in dip stick tube and it is 7 qts, but NO gasket. Summit one is a press/push in dip stick tube and 6 qts. And does NOT come with the oil pump and pump d/s but has the gasket.

Decisions decisions, one way or the other, someone is getting some cash.

 

So you already have the flywheel, and you would want a kit that includes another???


The M6675A460 rear sump kit is ~$165 delivered
Here it is at Summit's Ebay store
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Racing-M-6675-A460-Oil-Pan-Steel-Black-6-qt-Ford-Mustang-429-460-Each-/191268124936?fits=Make%3AFord

 

Yup, thats the pan I got. Sorry, thought it came with oil pump too for some reason. Seems to be a good pan, Haven't had any issue with mine yet. Been 2-3+ years. The gasket is real nice too, but you do have to drill out the reinforcement "eyes" where the bolts go through it for the couple of larger diameter bolts.

 

No I only posted that as what I was looking at. They sell just a clutch pack, but they say it works with the L&L flywheel only.

I am just researching what parts to use, gathering information and opinions. Thanks for the lead on the oil pump.

 

I imagine you must have a L&L flywheel in the truck now, or someone took a grinder to the inside of a 400 bell.
Because when you go to bolt it up there will be about a 3/8 gap from bell to block.

I did not know that their pressure plate was the only one that will fit their flywheel.

 

According to them. "Must be used with L&L Flywheels Special Bolt Pattern 1-1/16 Inch Heavy Duty 10 Spline Hub". Maybe that is a "buy me" statement?

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Nice looking rig!
B leed
B lue
F orever!

 

I have stalled trying to get the NONE retarded timing gear set part numbers correct. And getting gaskets, hdwr ect on hand.

 

Here to report the new Luk clutch is smooth and solid behind my 460.

The Cloyes 9-1122 has three keyways.
Just use the center '0' slot for straight up timing.
It's $49.83 on Amazon and eligible for Prime free shipping