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I am leaking at the Pitman are seal now and need a replacement.
Redhead shipped to Canada and core shipped back is just crazy money
 
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Bumper to bumper lists both an A-1cardone rebuilt unit for $150 and the ACdelco rebuilt unit for $180.

Redhead is $360 I believe.
 
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Originally Posted by Bigpipes 35
The brand was Lares which I found out later is rebuilt close to me in Cambridge MN...
Is Lares generally a reputable brand?
 
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Is Lares generally a reputable brand?

From the research I did on them it seemed like they had a pretty good reputation , I might have just got a bad one..
 
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I had the slop box as well. It was covered under an extended warranty so being in the wilderness I ended up taking it to a dealer 70 miles away. They put in a new Ford box. A little improvement but not great. It does track straight. I have not done the spring swap yet which is planned. I would not put another so called "factory box" in again. I would spend the money for a Redhead.
 
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Guys, I have years on the redhead, and it solved the problem and has not let me down since. = WIN
 
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Originally Posted by Snowseeker
Bumper to bumper lists both an A-1cardone rebuilt unit for $150 and the ACdelco rebuilt unit for $180.

Redhead is $360 I believe.
Looks like they''re around $440 not counting core charge
 
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Old 05-03-2015, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Watcher58
Looks like they''re around $440 not counting core charge



$356 plus core.
Being a "shop" I got mine for $295 or so. And I "prepaid" the return shipping to them on the core. I assumed they get a better shipping rate than me going into UPS off the street.
 
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Isn't the Excursion's steering ratio different than the Super Duty's steering ratio? Do the Redheads stick with the Excursion specific ratio?
 
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Just answered my own question. Excursions have a steering ratio of 17.0:1 while Super Duty have two different ratios: 19.6:1(2WD) and 20.3:1(4WD).

2004 FORD EXCURSION SPECIFICATIONS - Ford-Trucks.com

2004 FORD SUPER DUTY SPECIFICATIONS - Ford-Trucks.com

For those of you that have new steering boxes, did you all ensure that you received the Excursion specific ratio?
 
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$590.00 shipped to CO, on 4/8/2015. 200.00 core charge.


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Originally Posted by aortizexcursion
Just answered my own question. Excursions have a steering ratio of 17.0:1 while Super Duty have two different ratios: 19.6:1(2WD) and 20.3:1(4WD).

2004 FORD EXCURSION SPECIFICATIONS - Ford-Trucks.com

2004 FORD SUPER DUTY SPECIFICATIONS - Ford-Trucks.com

For those of you that have new steering boxes, did you all ensure that you received the Excursion specific ratio?


That is a great point and personally I would actually want the "quicker" ratio from the superduty. I remember when I first got the X that the steering seemed "slowed" or was a higher ratio then what I was used to.
 
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Originally Posted by Snowseeker
That is a great point and personally I would actually want the "quicker" ratio from the superduty. I remember when I first got the X that the steering seemed "slowed" or was a higher ratio then what I was used to.
That's interesting, I had no idea about this. I will pull my invoice and inquire.

I also don't understand the price variance. They have an msrp online, I paid 25 shipping each way, and after the core was credited I'm in mine $345 dollars with a shop discount.
 
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Snowseeker,

Wouldn't the quicker ratio take more actual effort at the steering wheel to turn but you get more response?

Isn't the 17-1 a quicker ration than
The super duties? It's closer to 1-1?

Think of a bicycle in high gear vs the lowest. Am I backwards on this?
 
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Just a side note--I didn't know anyone else sold RedHead but RedHead

Red-Head Steering Gear Box 97-09 Ford F-250 / F-350
 


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