Reconnecting Fuel Line at Tank
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Reconnecting Fuel Line at Tank
Okay, I am beside myself here. I just went through what has been a very painful fuel tank replacement. I used a new LMC steel tank with all new hardware (straps, strap bolts, etc). It seems this new tank is slight larger as once mounted on the running board supports, there was no room for wiggle or adjustment, even before tightening the straps down.
So, now that all that was done (including changing out the running board to frame bolts (since the old ones would not thread back). I finally got it all mounted up and ready to go.
Here's where I am just frustrated as heck. I go to connect the fuel line to the new tank. It's the stock fuel line and the stock tank fitting (pulled off of the old tank and installed on new tank in exactly the same spot and angle). But, I cannot get the fuel line to truly thread down into the fitting, no matter how hard I try. It's not quite lining up and with no ability to adjust this tank either side to side or up/down, I can't seem to get it connected. The length is there, it just won't thread and seat(as if the angle isn't quite right). I can maybe get a couple of twists on the compression fitting by hand, but that's it and if when I go to tighten it with a wrench, it then jumps back out on me (know what I mean?). This should just be a line the fittings up and thread it together operation but I can't seem to get it. I've been careful with the steel fuel line as I don't want to jack that up, but this is getting ridiculous. Any tips, hints, or suggestions? I am so frustrated and have no feeling left in my thumbs and fingers from trying to tighten these things enough for the threads to start grabbing.
If I can't make this work, what are my options? Is there some sort of flexible tubing I could connect to each stock connector and make the connection? I don't think I have the will or strength at this point to even think about running some sort of new fuel line.
HELP! It should have been so simple of a step.
So, now that all that was done (including changing out the running board to frame bolts (since the old ones would not thread back). I finally got it all mounted up and ready to go.
Here's where I am just frustrated as heck. I go to connect the fuel line to the new tank. It's the stock fuel line and the stock tank fitting (pulled off of the old tank and installed on new tank in exactly the same spot and angle). But, I cannot get the fuel line to truly thread down into the fitting, no matter how hard I try. It's not quite lining up and with no ability to adjust this tank either side to side or up/down, I can't seem to get it connected. The length is there, it just won't thread and seat(as if the angle isn't quite right). I can maybe get a couple of twists on the compression fitting by hand, but that's it and if when I go to tighten it with a wrench, it then jumps back out on me (know what I mean?). This should just be a line the fittings up and thread it together operation but I can't seem to get it. I've been careful with the steel fuel line as I don't want to jack that up, but this is getting ridiculous. Any tips, hints, or suggestions? I am so frustrated and have no feeling left in my thumbs and fingers from trying to tighten these things enough for the threads to start grabbing.
If I can't make this work, what are my options? Is there some sort of flexible tubing I could connect to each stock connector and make the connection? I don't think I have the will or strength at this point to even think about running some sort of new fuel line.
HELP! It should have been so simple of a step.
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Steady there Big Guy. This is a hobby, not a battle for something consequential.
Let's back up a sec. So you replaced the tank - always a good thing - but are intending on keeping the old lines. Can I ask why?
Is the issue your having caused by the fitting or the angle/positioning of the old line?
Let's back up a sec. So you replaced the tank - always a good thing - but are intending on keeping the old lines. Can I ask why?
Is the issue your having caused by the fitting or the angle/positioning of the old line?
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Thanks FortyNiner.
I replaced the tank because the old one had some soft spots on the bottom starting to develop. It wasn't really a planned project so I didn't really think through the whole fuel delivery system. And to be honest, I'm learning as I go on a very tight budget and tackling the entire steel fuel line is quite intimidating.
It looks as if it is possibly the angle of the fitting. It's close, and when I say close, I mean really close to being just fine. Maybe that's what gets me. But, after two days of trying to get it to thread, I'm lost. I've tried to adjust the angle some and the steel line, but now it just feels like an exercise in insanity.
Here's a pic of just how close it was on the initial reinstall. I got the fitting to start to thread, but not enough to make the connection start tightening.
I replaced the tank because the old one had some soft spots on the bottom starting to develop. It wasn't really a planned project so I didn't really think through the whole fuel delivery system. And to be honest, I'm learning as I go on a very tight budget and tackling the entire steel fuel line is quite intimidating.
It looks as if it is possibly the angle of the fitting. It's close, and when I say close, I mean really close to being just fine. Maybe that's what gets me. But, after two days of trying to get it to thread, I'm lost. I've tried to adjust the angle some and the steel line, but now it just feels like an exercise in insanity.
Here's a pic of just how close it was on the initial reinstall. I got the fitting to start to thread, but not enough to make the connection start tightening.
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Not a dumb question at all Abe, but it isn't.
I probably just need to walk away for a week or two. But, I just can't stand the truck not running and it's now springtime so the yard needs mulch, I was going to get some plywood and pegboard for another project, etc. All of those projects that I love doing with the truck... because the truck makes them fun.
I probably just need to walk away for a week or two. But, I just can't stand the truck not running and it's now springtime so the yard needs mulch, I was going to get some plywood and pegboard for another project, etc. All of those projects that I love doing with the truck... because the truck makes them fun.
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Not a dumb question at all Abe, but it isn't.
I probably just need to walk away for a week or two. But, I just can't stand the truck not running and it's now springtime so the yard needs mulch, I was going to get some plywood and pegboard for another project, etc. All of those projects that I love doing with the truck... because the truck makes them fun.
I probably just need to walk away for a week or two. But, I just can't stand the truck not running and it's now springtime so the yard needs mulch, I was going to get some plywood and pegboard for another project, etc. All of those projects that I love doing with the truck... because the truck makes them fun.
I had a similar problem with my 70 F350. A buddy and I were putting in a new brake cylinder and he had to leave and I could not get the brake line screwed into the back of the cylinder for the life of me. I worked for hours. I did not want to bend and kink the line and yet had to get it at the right angle. The next morning it took two of us. One to get he angle right and one to screw it in.
Good luck.
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Ok, the tank needed to be replaced - got it. Is the existing fuel line clean? Putting clean gas in a new tank and running it to the carb in old, dirty lines will get you stranded quick. Replacing the lines may make the most sense - and it likely eliminates the current frustration.
I understand the eagerness to get on the road. You don't want to hurry now to redo next week.
I understand the eagerness to get on the road. You don't want to hurry now to redo next week.
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Thanks for the tip Albuq-F1. I've been trying that, but I hadn't really loosed the line at all. I've just been working with what was there. I'll give that a shot.
FortyNiner - You are very wise. The truck ran like a champ before without any fuel delivery issues, so it didn't really cross my mind. But I may heed your advice. If I can't get it to thread in, a new steel fuel line may be in order. On first glance, it looks like to run that line the radiator has to be removed or lifted to run the line under it, does it not?
I'm taking a break from the truck for the evening. I have a blister on my right thumb the size of a quarter from continuing to try and start that connection. I'll do some research on the fuel line and talk to a few local mechanic friends of mine here to see if they can take a quick look in case I'm missing something obvious. I can be very stupid about things like this.
Thank you guys so much for your help. I'm really not mechanically inclined and I appreciate all of your advice and patience. I'm an IT guy by trade but this truck is a welcome relief from 0s and 1s, but just not on days like today.
FortyNiner - You are very wise. The truck ran like a champ before without any fuel delivery issues, so it didn't really cross my mind. But I may heed your advice. If I can't get it to thread in, a new steel fuel line may be in order. On first glance, it looks like to run that line the radiator has to be removed or lifted to run the line under it, does it not?
I'm taking a break from the truck for the evening. I have a blister on my right thumb the size of a quarter from continuing to try and start that connection. I'll do some research on the fuel line and talk to a few local mechanic friends of mine here to see if they can take a quick look in case I'm missing something obvious. I can be very stupid about things like this.
Thank you guys so much for your help. I'm really not mechanically inclined and I appreciate all of your advice and patience. I'm an IT guy by trade but this truck is a welcome relief from 0s and 1s, but just not on days like today.
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I have just refitted mine up, but I bent my steel line and ended up getting piece of copper pipe made up with a new fitting. If I hadn't damaged mine removing it, I think it would have been a bugger to get back in there as that old fuel line is bolted on top of the chassis rail and I would be inclined to undo and remove it to facilitate easing it into the tank.
The new piece I used was a fair bit shorter than the original but I just ran some rubber hose to it and ignored bolting it back up where it was. Not the best solution, perhaps but it fitted up very easily.
what worries me is if your tank is bigger than your angle is gonna be out of alignment and that would account for the difficulty of refitting it, methinks?
The new piece I used was a fair bit shorter than the original but I just ran some rubber hose to it and ignored bolting it back up where it was. Not the best solution, perhaps but it fitted up very easily.
what worries me is if your tank is bigger than your angle is gonna be out of alignment and that would account for the difficulty of refitting it, methinks?
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