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Gasser, right?

It puzzles me that you can only get the 6.2 in the 1500 Denali.
 
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Torsion bars are a fine way to spring a vehicle. They do not offer much suspension travel, unlike a coil spring, but do well to hold up a heavy weight. I have some friends who have a 2009 Chevy 2500 HD Regular Cab 6.0L. They put a 9' stainless Boss V-plow on it...too much plow for the front of that truck. It works, but it really squats when you pick the plow up. That's even with a Fisher Poly-caster in the bed.
 
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Actually, GM did much to improve the strength of their HD IFS front ends, I believe in 2009. The earlier versions were laughably weak. The tie-rods on them were constantly bending.

Control arm suspension, such as what GM uses, both rides and handles better than a solid axle...reason being, if one wheel hits a bump, that wheel moves but not the other opposite wheel. On a Ford, or RAM, if one wheel hits a bump, it upsets both sides of the vehicle.

Nevertheless, I do not want IFS on an HD truck. It will require more maintenance - ball joints and bushings, and provides lesser ground clearance, and typically wears out tires faster.
Hate to say it, but since GM significatly upgraded their HD IFS in 2011, I now see a lot more problems with SD SFA's. No question Ford's non-greasable plastic-lined ball joints wear much faster than GM's conventional greasable type, but I see almost no issues with either GM's CV joints or bearing/hub assemblies. The Fords still have the all inner needle bearing and outer U-joint wear issues. Take a look at how many posts are on these forums about those problems.
 
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Gasser, right?

It puzzles me that you can only get the 6.2 in the 1500 Denali.
No mystery, GM won't use an aluminum block in a HD truck. All the 6.2L's are aluminum block, the old 6.0L is iron.
 
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This will be the second 6.0L I've owned, and the 4:10 rears really make a nice gas package. Plenty of power to tow a reasonable weight, decent pick up and MPG.
I've got no problem with GM's 6.0 gasser.
Drive a GM 5.3, and I promise you, anything is a significant upgrade.

My wife's 15' Denali has the new 6.2l 8 speed, but they seem to have a different feel. A little more performance on the Denali, and more low end on the 6.0l. Obviously they are geared different, and probably cammed very differently.

The truck has 54 miles on it, and it's already back to the dealer for a couple days because of a bad transmission cooler that greased up my garage floor. That aside, I'm still impressed with the ride for a shorter truck.
 
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Originally Posted by troverman
Torsion bars are a fine way to spring a vehicle. They do not offer much suspension travel, unlike a coil spring, but do well to hold up a heavy weight. I have some friends who have a 2009 Chevy 2500 HD Regular Cab 6.0L. They put a 9' stainless Boss V-plow on it...too much plow for the front of that truck. It works, but it really squats when you pick the plow up. That's even with a Fisher Poly-caster in the bed.
The squatting problem is easily fixed with a few turns on the torsion bars.
 
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the look of the new SD's grossed me out at first, but it's starting to grow on me.. but that GM style IFS/A-arm/CV joint 4wd suspension in an SD.. "oh h*** NO!" i can live with lower ride quality..
 
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No mystery, GM won't use an aluminum block in a HD truck. All the 6.2L's are aluminum block, the old 6.0L is iron.
Right! And everybody keeps talking about putting the aluminum Mustang engine in the '17 SD! No thanks.
 
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The squatting problem is easily fixed with a few turns on the torsion bars.
Not when the weight of the plow exceeds the max of what the torsion bars can handle even when cranked all the way. It was a really nice plow, but just a bit too big. Really needed to be on something like an F-550.

Our city runs a mixed fleet of big Navistar 4x4 plows and about 10 Ford F-550's with 9' plows and wings. Originally, the city was using DRW F-350's but that plow was sinking the front ends. Now it's just 550's and a few 350 SRW trucks with 8' plows.
 
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Originally Posted by George C
This will be the second 6.0L I've owned, and the 4:10 rears really make a nice gas package. Plenty of power to tow a reasonable weight, decent pick up and MPG.
I've got no problem with GM's 6.0 gasser.
Drive a GM 5.3, and I promise you, anything is a significant upgrade.

My wife's 15' Denali has the new 6.2l 8 speed, but they seem to have a different feel. A little more performance on the Denali, and more low end on the 6.0l. Obviously they are geared different, and probably cammed very differently.

The truck has 54 miles on it, and it's already back to the dealer for a couple days because of a bad transmission cooler that greased up my garage floor. That aside, I'm still impressed with the ride for a shorter truck.
The earlier 6.0's burned oil and rapped - GM said it was normal. Presumably this is fixed now.
 
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Not when the weight of the plow exceeds the max of what the torsion bars can handle even when cranked all the way. It was a really nice plow, but just a bit too big. Really needed to be on something like an F-550.

Our city runs a mixed fleet of big Navistar 4x4 plows and about 10 Ford F-550's with 9' plows and wings. Originally, the city was using DRW F-350's but that plow was sinking the front ends. Now it's just 550's and a few 350 SRW trucks with 8' plows.
I bought a Fisher XLS 8'-10' expandable plow for this truck. Only a few pounds different than the XV2 V plows that everyone runs around here. That set up will run over 1000 lbs by the time the head rack and extra cutting edge is installed. Lots and lots of GM trucks running them, so it must be a different torsion set up from my last GM.
I simply try to never go anywhere far with the plow on the truck. The Fishers are so easy to install and remove, that it literally takes about 20 seconds.

I did notice the front end with the plow prep package is rated at 6,200 lbs.
GM must have upped their game recently.
 
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some more news about new 2017 Ford Super Duty on

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Every post you've made on FTE is trying to push a half-assed blog. A website called 2017trucksnews.com that uses unsourced information that Ford clearly has never said(such as the 28 mpg claim). Or listing the Toyota Tacoma as a direct competitor to the F-350?

Who writes this garbage?
 
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I was thinking the same. Spammer?
 
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Probably. The whois on the domain for that blog is out of Panama.
 


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