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Old 03-06-2015, 06:57 PM
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Help cam sensor

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Was trying to give back to FTE, all have been helpful. So I figure I would post a problem solver. Had a nice oil leak traced to cam sensor o ring. All back together now crank no start.

Truck is half in and out of garage, torque pro isn't pulling any codes. I did accidentally pull my alternator cable out of the connector, luckily had one to replace.

Ideas would be great, did I wreck the sensor taking it out?

Will have to try and pull the beast out tonight.



Thanks in advance
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Old 03-06-2015, 07:18 PM
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Sorry for your pain -- do you have the Sync(s) in your Torque? I've been very curious as to if the two are actually different (where you get a sync for FICM but not for Cam). I can grab my phone and give you the one I have...
 
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Old 03-06-2015, 07:24 PM
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Funny you ask, I have not been able to get the cam/crank sync to work, always has read 0. Do you have the pid? I can try it, I will see what I have worded in the pid

Obd2 mode 2209cd
Min value 0
Max value 1
Scale factor x1
Unit type sync
Equation {a:0}. Might of just figured it out had a space on equa
OBD header 7e0
 
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Here is what I have for Cam vs Crank Sync (you have to manually enter this one).

PID: 2209cd
Long Name: Cam vs Crank Sync
Short Name: Sync
Minimum Value: 0.0
Maximum Value: 1.0
Scale Factor: x1
Unit Type: Sync
Equation: {A:1}
OBD Header: 7E0


The only difference I have seen in the folks that claim to have an FICM Sync gauge is the Equation is {A:0} (and of course they name it different. Maybe that is all it takes.

See if this helps you though...
 
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Old 03-06-2015, 07:35 PM
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Funny you ask, I have not been able to get the cam/crank sync to work, always has read 0. Do you have the pid? I can try it, I will see what I have worded in the pid
Yes mine works: KOEO I get Zero engine running I get One... or No/Yes depending on gauge you choose...
 
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Old 03-06-2015, 07:53 PM
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Diesel dan, thanks for the help, I had an extra space in the equation for the pid, I get zeros KOEO, as well as cranking. Must of killed the sensor taking it out, and also date night with the wife

Guess I will try and pull the truck out with the escape( doubt it). Don't tell anyone my door will be open all night:-hu. I will finish my pics, and see if advance has the sensor tomorrow, the dealership doesn't.
 
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Old 03-06-2015, 08:01 PM
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The good news is? You can go "old school" and have Date Night in the Truck!

The other good news is the sensors are way cheaper these days...
 
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Hard to see, missing part of oring.



New orings and part number. $6.50 w/tax. Miller Ford

Note. New larger oring is purple, original is black, must be an upgrade.
Black is nitrile rubber
Purple is perfluorelastomer or ethylene propylene.(guessing in the industry)

I also left the red oring on to get the new purple one past


Then changed red one.


Tools
8mm deep socket, 1/4 inch and ratchet.
Pulled air cleaner.
Set socket on nut from top, but couldn't get the torque.
So I left it on, and wrenched from below.
Tightened from the top.

Back together but no start lol. I will post when I get it running.
Movie time with my wife now.
 
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Changeing o-rings will not fix anything for the electrical function. You could try checking for continuity other than that it will take a labscope or occiloscope and check the signal and wave form pattern. It is basicaly a electro magnet.
 
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I didn't change the orings for that, I had an oil leak I was repairing, this is aftermath. Now I think about it, I might have pulled the sensor out crooked. One repair leads to another.
 
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Well guys, back in business, was the pigtail.

Dan, cam/crack sync works now.
Thanks for the help.

So far no leaks.
 
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Double4LinkDiesel
Well guys, back in business, was the pigtail.

Dan, cam/crack sync works now.
Thanks for the help.

So far no leaks.
Nice, were you able to clean it or did you replace it?
 
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Old 03-07-2015, 01:15 PM
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Cleaned, new orings, and repaired pigtail, was getting high short. Be careful unplugging pigtail, it's brittle
 
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Originally Posted by Double4LinkDiesel
Well guys, back in business, was the pigtail.

Dan, cam/crack sync works now.
Thanks for the help.

So far no leaks.
YEA!!! And even better, it wasn't the sensor!

I love being able to give back to the FTE community (rare that I know enough to do so), so I'm glad I could help...

Now if you or someone could figure out if there IS a FICM Sync we can program in Torque (and it's proven). That would be a gift for sure
 
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OP I simply meant you needed to look further for your electrical problem than your oil leak problem how ever you found that the oil leak itself [oil soaked connector] was the cause of your electrical problem.
Since I use an actual scanner I can not help with the torque pro problem. It would be a good thing to know as torque is widely used by many.
 


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