The white bottle that treats 250 gal. is 9 dollars and some change around here. Guess we use a little more though !
I don't use it in my truck unless I don't know what the fuel is blended to, when I buy it on the road.

 

Sounds like us Northerners need to educate you Southern boys on what Wind Chill is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_chill

 

It's optima batteries that don't take a charge below 40f after a year of service in my 7.3. Glad to have the warranty expire after replacing them for the third time in three years under warranty, and the sixth time in six years. Batteries must be up to par in cold weather. No more Optimas.

 

I've never had a problem with diesel. I do add the white bottle just prior to filling up. I have started up at -26 degrees ( in New Hampshire's White Mountains ) no easy but started Just give it time to warm up a little. Don't want to harm the engine.

As far as batteries, this might sound crude but I have just pulled into Wally world and had them drop in two batteries when one goes. Works fine for me. I usually get 4 to 5 year out of them.

 

I was stationed at Redstone for a couple of years and never ever saw any temperatures that would have me worrying about diesel gelling.

Here in VT it's another story: 19 below this AM with a wind chill of 30 below. Truck sits outside in it and always starts. I do use PM22 with every fill up and keep the tank full to limit condensation.

 

haha Thank you for this! One of my pet peeves is when someone is talking about starting their truck and uses the windchill temperature.

To summarize the link above, windchill only happens when the object in question is warmer than the ambient temperature. So, your truck before starting is the same temperature as ambient so windchill does not apply. It does however apply after your truck has warmed up.

And, if I'm not mistaken, the windchill value is based on human skin at 98.6 degrees F.

 

First off, who mentioned Windchill in relation to the fuel gelling??? I can't find where anyone did. Amelio only mentioned what the windchill would be here, along with the regular temp. No one has said anything about the WC and gelling together. I'm quite familiar with what windchill is being in the medical field for 27 years. The only thing that was referenced to the wind, was at how quickly the temperature was dropping, which in turn, can cause condensation in a closed tank. I am not trying to be a smart@$$ and please don't think I am trying to come across that way, but unless I missed something, I haven't seen it posted with WC in relation to the gelling.

 

Correct. I think I mentioned windchill simply because it was an "amusing" number - my truck was still only 19 below.

 

I wasn't trying to point any fingers. The whole wind chill topic just get's me going sometimes. My bad. My reference to starting an engine was just an example.

 

Wonder if Jim Cantore has a SD........


































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The local Wally World did have the Diesel Kleen and it was under $9 for a quart. Based on the 26gal tank its roughly 8oz per tank. I figure it cant hurt at all plus it has a lubricant and helps cetane so why not at only $2.25 per tank.


No we don't have the cold your northern boys do but I m a cold weather weenie.......I cant stand it when its below 50!


My brother in-law bought a bottle of the winter stuff and the gray bottle which is a regular maintenance diesel additive. He told me he put both additives into his truck the other night any of you guys done that or heard of that?

 

It's kind of overkill, but just like some people putting double the amount of one or the other. Won't hurt a thing. Just don't ever use 911Diesel on our trucks.

 

Easy solution...pick up some Opti-Lube XPD and get the antigel, cetane and lubrication all in one product. I ordered a gallon with the pump dispenser and two small containers. Makes it real easy. You can get $4.95 flat rate shipping at Diesel Fuel Lube - Sale on Gallons of Optilube

 

After 15 miles of driving at 6°F (real 6, not wc 6) the other morning, my oil only hit 165. I like cold but that's a little cold...ha!

 

I spent part of last week in little rock. It was cold there too, I think maybe 16°?. I could have plugged in at the hotel but I didn't. Thursday morning the truck fired right up and after idling for about 20 min the oil temp made it to 100°. Driving brought it up to 200° pretty quick. Idling at traffic lights the oil would drop below 200° quickly though.

I used a bottle of the white diesel kleen power service stuff in my aux tank. Didn't have any issues other than I don't like working outside when it's below 30°.

Also, my truck has the T-6 5w-40 synthetic in it, and this is the very reason I run that oil. Random climates I travel to. Next week I work in Daytona Florida on Wednesday, Sparta Illinois on Friday.....