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Old 12-11-2014, 11:44 PM
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Need advice on F-450 Price

A local Ford dealer that I have bought a couple of cars and my 99 SD from has a 2015 F-450 that was ordered then the guy backed out. Here's the particulars:
2015 F-450 CC
6.7 Liter Diesel
6 Spd Transmission
172" WB
White Platinum Tri-Paint
Platinum Level Package
Rapid Heat Supplemental Heater
Moon Roof
Up Fitter Switches
Dual Alternators
Heated Rear Seat

MSRP-$72630

Offered Price $68,000 +TTL


The trailer will be 44-50 feet longer tri-axle depending on if we use a toy hauler or just a RV trailer. Trailer weight 18,000+, Hitch weight 3,000+. I'm sure the truck will tow these trailers without a problem. my question is that a fair, good, high, steal price. Is it too much truck/ Would a 350 do the job??
 
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Old 12-12-2014, 01:05 AM
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Price don't really seem that far off base. However!!!!!!

Make sure you check your state laws and with your insurance company to prevent any surprises. The legislators here a few years ago has made it impossible for the average joe to put a truck this size on a personal policy. My 99' F-450 insurance alone costs more than the other 3 trucks in my signature combined. The largest thing that I can now have on a personal policy is an F-350. Not trying to scare or discourage you, just be prepared.

My insurance agent(unknowingly to me)put mine down as an F-350 and the DMV caught it and fined me and came to the house to remove the tags. Insurance co. got it straightened out.

I checked into rv insurance co's but I was informed by all of them that if the truck was on the road it had to have the rv attached...even just to run up the road to get fuel. These folks around here with "DMV Exempt/Recreational Vehicle" decals on their trucks are getting a rude awakening.

My toter-home was reclassified as a truck because it had a gooseneck/fifthwheel hitch. The insurance was so high that I sold it.

Your laws in Iowa may be better or worse. I try to enlighten folks whenever I can.

Good Luck, the New F-450's are nice!
 
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I hadn't even thought about the concerns you brought up. I am glad you did. I'll be making some phone calls tomorrow.
 
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I hadn't even thought about the concerns you brought up. I am glad you did. I'll be making some phone calls tomorrow.
Don't depend on the dealer for the right answers, he has a truck to sell.
 
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I'll be calling the DMV and my insurance company. Never trust the advice of a man trying to sell you something.
 
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Old 12-12-2014, 01:43 AM
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I priced a new Platinum F450 to replace our '11 a month ago @ $66k+ TTL. I'd definitely want a 450 for that weight and trailer size. Ours is used as a car hauler with the trailer weighing in at 20k lbs. We're in a bind as the truck has 297k miles on it and I really wanted to wait for a '16..
 
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:12 AM
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Just one guy's opinion, but coming down $4k off sticker on an MSRP like that doesn't seem like a huge bargain to me. Especially if the dealer got "stuck" with it and wants to move it.
 
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I agree, was getting $9K off any 2015 SD I wanted 1-2 months ago and that included if I ordered one. Haven't checked current rebates but I doubt they have disappeared. More or less half was in rebates and half was marked off MSRP.
 
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The F450 Platinum's, are not exactly a dime a dozen here. Most have to be ordered, so dealers aren't exactly "stuck" with anything. Makes negotiating $10k off sticker a bit tough. I have never even seen one for sale here at any dealer here. Only pre order's.
 
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The F450 Platinum's, are not exactly a dime a dozen here. Most have to be ordered, so dealers aren't exactly "stuck" with anything. Makes negotiating $10k off sticker a bit tough. I have never even seen one for sale here at any dealer here. Only pre order's.
Well, the OP said that the truck was ordered. By someone other than himself. And that person backed out of the deal.
In my opinion, that means the dealer is stuck with it. At least until the next guy comes along that wants a high dollar truck.
 
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Old 12-12-2014, 06:59 PM
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I gotcha. I'm just saying there's not a lot of them on dealer lots these days. When I looked the closest was Ohio I think. To the OP you can give them an offer you're happy with then walk away if they say no. See who bites first..
 
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I'd try to get more off MSRP, I just don't see a loaded up F450 being something that sells fast. The only 450's I've seen around here are utility trucks.
 
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There's a reason most need to be ordered and you don't see them sitting on the lot. The market for them is pretty narrow. If it weren't there would be a whole line of them sitting on the lot with a constant turnover. Dealers, like anyone, stock what sells.

I agree about the price, I don't see it as any "good deal". The dealer now has a vehicle he will probably have a harder than usual time moving.
 
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Old 12-13-2014, 06:43 AM
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I gotcha. I'm just saying there's not a lot of them on dealer lots these days. When I looked the closest was Ohio I think. To the OP you can give them an offer you're happy with then walk away if they say no. See who bites first..
Yup. That's what I'd try if I were in the market for that sort of truck. As tgreening says, it's a narrow market. You generally don't see several F450's sitting on the lot to choose from. I would guess they'd be happy to get it off the lot even if it means a smaller profit than it would have generated from the person who originally ordered it.
 


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