Ford is Building a F-150 Hybrid
#17
12-11-2014, 10:45 AM
Fleet Mechanic
Depends on where you live. There's only a 20-30 cent premium for diesel in my parts right now. During the summer, it's cheaper than regular. Right now, my current truck is getting easily 4 to 5 mpg more than my previous 2010 F-150. That's roughly 30% better fuel economy in mixed commute driving (same exact duty cycle). If it was pure freeway comparison, it'd be 17 mpg on my F-150 vs 23 mpg on my current truck (tank averages on road trips) DEF only adds $0.025 cents more per gallon of diesel in running costs. Oil changes for me have averaged only $20 more per change. If I didn't have the stupid 6-month changing cycle requirement, I'd have double the interval over my old F-150 (15,000 miles). So I'd actually be ahead in oil changes once the warranty is up. Only solid extra cost is the fuel filters at roughly 110 to 120 bucks a year. Diesels make sense in some areas for some individuals. Can't really make a blanket statement on whether diesel is more cost effective or not.
#18
12-14-2014, 03:02 PM
#19
12-15-2014, 09:21 PM
One thing I have notice where Ford is lagging behind is cylinder deactivation. Both the Chevy 5.3L and the Chrysler 5.7 HEMI have it and it does help with mileage. GM has been using it for several years and even tried it in Cadillac but that failed but they did refine it.
I still think the Ford 3.2 I5 is a good enough engine for the F150. We can stop with whose got more power and torque war. Or Ford could release the April Fools V6 4.9L PowerStroke they teased us with for the Bronco.
I still think the Ford 3.2 I5 is a good enough engine for the F150. We can stop with whose got more power and torque war. Or Ford could release the April Fools V6 4.9L PowerStroke they teased us with for the Bronco.
#20
12-15-2014, 10:08 PM
It could all just be marketing. Add a 2.7 & all aluminum truck now. Gets tons of press and lot's of people talking about the truck. Add in a Hybrid as well as a 10 speed transmission to keep people talking, then come in with the slam dunk and add the diesel. Then again it could all be a stall tactic until a 10 speed trans is ready. I'm thinking the 2.7 will be my next engine.
#21
12-16-2014, 05:55 AM
#22
12-16-2014, 07:38 PM
#23
12-17-2014, 01:57 PM
Well I didn't necessarily say a V4...but hey! If the engineers can do it I wouldn't mind...
#24
12-17-2014, 02:35 PM
By default the EcoBoost has cylinder deactivation. Your running with 6 and have the power of 8.
#25
12-18-2014, 10:59 PM
My wife had a 2007 Aspen AWD with the 5.7 Hemi. The cylinder deactivation was very sensitive, really to get it to work you had to use the cruise control. Next she had a 2011 Denali and that thing sucked gas, no matter what we did. Now she has an 2012 SRX which does a good job on the highway. Maybe GM got the deactivation working.
By default the EcoBoost has cylinder deactivation. Your running with 6 and have the power of 8.
By default the EcoBoost has cylinder deactivation. Your running with 6 and have the power of 8.
This Hybrid tech is going to add way more complexity to an already complex gas engine. Its going to add more overall cost if anything in the system goes down. the engine is going to be slightly less powerful for the hybrid system. I also don't feel like the sales will be there, so they'll be taking a loss at it. Unless it can get better mileage and still have more power than EcoDiesel (35+ mpg), they'll be wasting resources on something that could ultimately fail.
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