1968-Present E-Series Van/Cutaway/Chassis Econolines. E150, E250, E350, E450 and E550

E-150 1990: HOW IS O2 SENSOR SUPPOSED TO READ???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-24-2014, 05:10 PM
namarena's Avatar
namarena
namarena is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
E-150 1990: HOW IS O2 SENSOR SUPPOSED TO READ???

I have been battling a code 31 and 41 on the "off test OBD1" procedure and that indicates the O2 sensor is always low. I tied a volt meter to the output oi the sensor and I read after warmup bertween 0.7 to 0.9 VDC and it stays at that voltage until I decelerate, at which point it drops to 0.03 to 0.4 VDC. It nevers "sweeps" between low and high voltages (for that I mean below and above 0.5VDC which theoretically would be the stoichiometric optimal value).

Not being an expert on Ford injection systems, does the computer sweep the sensor with a voltage to read its value, just like the Bosch systems L-jetronic, Motronic and others do?

If I had a healty running engine, what should I read on the O2 sensor tap I made? a steady voltage or a sweeping voltage?

Thanks for any input!

P.S.: Oh yeah, car drives like heck, stumbles, jiggers and it is not the fuel pressure as I have a calibrated gauge on the rail and it is spot on.

Namarena
 
  #2  
Old 11-25-2014, 08:22 AM
JWA's Avatar
JWA
JWA is offline
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Reynoldsburg, Ohio
Posts: 20,888
Received 1,393 Likes on 1,102 Posts
I'd also post this question in the appropriate engine forum for the CID and model year you're working with. Because its in a van body doesn't mean these symptoms are specific to that installation.


HTH
 
  #3  
Old 11-28-2014, 09:41 AM
subford's Avatar
subford
subford is offline
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Easton,Ks
Posts: 23,603
Likes: 0
Received 228 Likes on 177 Posts
You said these codes where from the KOEO "off test OBD1".
The KOEO is just an electrical test and not a running performance test.
The CM codes might tell you a lot more if you have not disconnected the battery.

KOEO Service Code 31 indicates that the EGR Valve Position (EVP) sensor signal is less than the Self-Test minimum value of 0.2 volts. Maybe bad (an open) wiring or EVP sensor.

The 41 code is not a KOEO code and you can only get from the CM or KOER self tests.
If it was from the CM list it and I will guess it was it says you are running lean.

You might try checking the fuel pressure as an bad fuel pump or plugged fuel filter can cause this also along with the running problem. You fuel pressure may be normal while the van is not moving but low under load. You need to check it with a gauge while on a hill under WOT.
 
  #4  
Old 12-06-2014, 08:32 PM
joshofalltrades's Avatar
joshofalltrades
joshofalltrades is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,560
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
the sensor is capable of reading from 0 to 1v. stoich is right around 0.8v. if its working properly while driving, its readings should be bouncing up and down too fast for your poor voltmeter to keep up. if you have test equipment able to read fast enough, it should be jumping up and down pretty fast around 0.8v. a steady reading like you're getting means that either your test equipment is too slow to give you live data, or your sensor isn't working well. it should sweep up and down fairly fast, but primarily around 0.8v
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
namarena
Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5.0/302, 5.8/351W)
5
11-27-2014 03:03 PM
richmone73
Bronco II
1
01-08-2011 11:31 PM
bigwillie
Explorer, Sport Trac, Mountaineer & Aviator
13
07-03-2006 12:28 PM
Spiccolli
2.6, 2.8, 2.9, 4.0 & SOHC 4.0 V6
14
01-14-2006 02:29 PM
Jrock909
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
2
12-22-2004 11:43 AM



Quick Reply: E-150 1990: HOW IS O2 SENSOR SUPPOSED TO READ???



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:40 PM.