OT: Ron Covell on F&L!
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OT: Ron Covell on F&L!
Tonite's Fast and Loud had a short bonus scene of Ron Covell (Metal shaping guru extraordinary) making a cameo appearance at gas monkey garage showing Aaron how to make a simple hood scoop out of aluminum in just a few minutes using shot bag and hammer, english wheel and shrinker. Well worth checking your local TV schedule for repeat showings of this week's episode with the C-10 build. He puts a lot of information in his instruction both in words and in watching and LISTENING to the metal as he works.
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Tonite's Fast and Loud had a short bonus scene of Ron Covell (Metal shaping guru extraordinary) making a cameo appearance at gas monkey garage showing Aaron how to make a simple hood scoop out of aluminum in just a few minutes using shot bag and hammer, english wheel and shrinker. Well worth checking your local TV schedule for repeat showings of this week's episode with the C-10 build. He puts a lot of information in his instruction both in words and in watching and LISTENING to the metal as he works.
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People have been shaping metal for a long time, from building cars from scratch to suits of armor, most of the time with very basic hand tools. Craftsmen back in the days before electricity didn't have machines to work with yet they turned out amazing complex work. Any shaping operation that can be done by machine can also be done with hand tools, the only difference is the machines just do it quicker. You really need to try it, you may find a whole new love.
PS: a LOT of metal shaping IS done with a torch and a BFH. Ron used both in shaping the hood scoop!
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Respectfully Ax, those guys are pros with ample experience and equipment. Could I possibly learn enough to be a hack? Maybe, with enough time and money. I'm better off hiring a capable practitioner and rewarding him/her for their craft.
There are many things I'll try but, to quote a line: "A man's gotta know his limitations".
There are many things I'll try but, to quote a line: "A man's gotta know his limitations".
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We actually teach a version of it here.
In one of our high adventure programs we give the kids a round piece of aluminum. They use a dished piece of wood and a ball-peen hammer to make their own bowl. They use the bowl for eating the rest of the week they're here. Obviously some of them look rough, like the one in the picture, but some of the kids take their time and they turn out pretty nice.
Here is a kit similar to what we use:
We used to use copper, but it got too expensive. The copper was easier to shape, but also easier to tear a hole through.
In one of our high adventure programs we give the kids a round piece of aluminum. They use a dished piece of wood and a ball-peen hammer to make their own bowl. They use the bowl for eating the rest of the week they're here. Obviously some of them look rough, like the one in the picture, but some of the kids take their time and they turn out pretty nice.
Here is a kit similar to what we use:
We used to use copper, but it got too expensive. The copper was easier to shape, but also easier to tear a hole through.
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We actually teach a version of it here.
In one of our high adventure programs we give the kids a round piece of aluminum. They use a dished piece of wood and a ball-peen hammer to make their own bowl. They use the bowl for eating the rest of the week they're here. Obviously some of them look rough, like the one in the picture, but some of the kids take their time and they turn out pretty nice.
Here is a kit similar to what we use:
We used to use copper, but it got too expensive. The copper was easier to shape, but also easier to tear a hole through.
In one of our high adventure programs we give the kids a round piece of aluminum. They use a dished piece of wood and a ball-peen hammer to make their own bowl. They use the bowl for eating the rest of the week they're here. Obviously some of them look rough, like the one in the picture, but some of the kids take their time and they turn out pretty nice.
Here is a kit similar to what we use:
We used to use copper, but it got too expensive. The copper was easier to shape, but also easier to tear a hole through.
A plastic or wood torpedo mallet would be better than a ball peen. You can buy a torpedo mallet or repurpose an inexpensive larger wood or plastic mallet from the hardware store by grinding/sanding one face from flat into a 1/2 ball shape. If you have access to a wood lathe, a wood torpedo mallet head can be turned quickly from a 3 or 4" square x 6" or 8" piece of maple or hickory. Lacking a lathe at the time I used to make them from broken wood baseball bats. I've even seen them made from the cap of a compressed gas cylinder with a pipe handle welded to the side!
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Effie Trucker: Here's an easier but more satisfying way to make that bowl that they would be proud to take home and show off: Use that same dished wood block. Cut a piiece of 3/4" plywood the same size as the outside and cut a circle the size of the bowl shaped recess out of the center. Cut the metal in a square the same size as the pieces of wood. sandwich the annealed aluminum between the two pieces of wood and secure with 4 4" C clamps or by drilling thru the three layers and using wood screws in the 4 corners. Now use a punch made from a 6" length of 1" square or round maple, oak, delrin or nylon, shaped round on the end, and a mallet to slowly drive the metal into the depression working around the piece from the edge to the center until it is tight to the depression. Now remove the clamps or screws and trim the rim (or leave the rim in the square shape). Sand the edges smooth with 180 wet or dry sandpaper glued or wrapped and taped to a stick (a type of molding from the DIY store called "screen mold", about 1/4" x 1" makes excellent sanding sticks.)
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AX, where they do this is out in the woods with nothing but a shelter and fireplace. They can only use the "tools of the day" with the only thing modern being aluminum in place of copper.
I like the idea of the torpedo mallet. That they could use. The only heat would have to come from fire. They do have a pair of farrier tongs they could use to hold the aluminum in the heat.
I also like the idea of clamping a retainer ring over the metal. It would certainly help maintain a clean rim. We have some "authentic" clamps that would work well. (or just some screws with wing-nuts)
The punch you described would basically be like 6" off the end of an old shovel handle.
Thanks for the suggestions. Sometimes we get caught up in "the way we've always done it" and don't look for new ideas.
I like the idea of the torpedo mallet. That they could use. The only heat would have to come from fire. They do have a pair of farrier tongs they could use to hold the aluminum in the heat.
I also like the idea of clamping a retainer ring over the metal. It would certainly help maintain a clean rim. We have some "authentic" clamps that would work well. (or just some screws with wing-nuts)
The punch you described would basically be like 6" off the end of an old shovel handle.
Thanks for the suggestions. Sometimes we get caught up in "the way we've always done it" and don't look for new ideas.
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I recorded the show last night, and saw nothing about what Chuck mentioned originally. Just the C10 finish and the Cattle Mens Ball.
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