AC Bracket for a 1967 F100 300 engine underdash unit
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I had to 'Frankenstein' my A/C install, with parts from Ebay, Napa, Azone, and a local parts house in the little town I live in, in Baja. After advice from a number of way more experienced mechanics than I am, I went with a Sanden compressor, which uses the old R-12 Freon, still available all over Mexico. I fabricated the mount for the Sanden, and mated it to the cast style Ford Six bracket, used on the late 70's and early 80's, before the stamped sheet metal ones appeared. Having a welder, a pile of scrap steel, and an old lathe, made it possible. I chose the 'Canned Ham' style pump, used by Ford on the Econoline vans. They seem to have a much better reputation, and so far, 1 year without trouble. I had the hoses made up at a shop that does that, and discovered that my under dash, after market, dealer installed style, unit, must have been for an automatic tranny, as it took some mods to the stick for my NP435 . Note, they are not easy to bend...
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#245
It is one of the Ford dealer Installed kit. I see the tag on it says "Motorcraft" so it is Ford not aftermarket. But the compressor has the clamp on hose style fittings so it is not a factory style set up. The factory set up would have had hoses with built on fittings. Now 1982/84 was a nightmare looking up A/C stuff. Most things were cataloged by Ford wrong. They were in the process of switching away from the York compressors to HR980, FS6,etc. And from the ol' drier style system to the accumulators. They had so many different possibilities that they even confused themselves.
So I am thinking the above compressor brackets were only sold in the "mount and drive" kit part number E4TZ19B969C. You mentioned 1984. And I see it is on a 300 I6. The application for E4TZ19B969C is:
1984...F series...300....Dealer installed A/C.........without compressor model HR980. Discontinued long, long ago. None on my locators.
So I am thinking the above compressor brackets were only sold in the "mount and drive" kit part number E4TZ19B969C. You mentioned 1984. And I see it is on a 300 I6. The application for E4TZ19B969C is:
1984...F series...300....Dealer installed A/C.........without compressor model HR980. Discontinued long, long ago. None on my locators.
#246
It is one of the Ford dealer Installed kit. I see the tag on it says "Motorcraft" so it is Ford not aftermarket. But the compressor has the clamp on hose style fittings so it is not a factory style set up. The factory set up would have had hoses with built on fittings. Now 1982/84 was a nightmare looking up A/C stuff. Most things were cataloged by Ford wrong. They were in the process of switching away from the York compressors to HR980, FS6,etc. And from the ol' drier style system to the accumulators. They had so many different possibilities that they even confused themselves.
So I am thinking the above compressor brackets were only sold in the "mount and drive" kit part number E4TZ19B969C. You mentioned 1984. And I see it is on a 300 I6. The application for E4TZ19B969C is:
1984...F series...300....Dealer installed A/C.........without compressor model HR980. Discontinued long, long ago. None on my locators.
So I am thinking the above compressor brackets were only sold in the "mount and drive" kit part number E4TZ19B969C. You mentioned 1984. And I see it is on a 300 I6. The application for E4TZ19B969C is:
1984...F series...300....Dealer installed A/C.........without compressor model HR980. Discontinued long, long ago. None on my locators.
#247
I recently found a Bendix steering box in good condition and I am going to attempt to install it. Given my a/c bracket configuration, I am not going to be able to use it with the power steering pump bracket. So, I have decided to remove the a/c bracket (after all of that heartache and finally getting it to work) and will be switching it out for an early to mid 80's stamped steel bracket. My question is, if I am not able to run one belt around the a/c and power steering pulley, is there anything wrong with running separate belts from the crankshaft to the a/c and one from the crankshaft to the power steering pulley? Remember that I had squealing when I tried to run the belt around the water pump pulley.
Also, does anyone know if you can bolt a generic Sanden compressor like mine to the stamped steel brackets that are prevalent on the early to mid 80's Broncos, Econolines and F15o trucks?
I am going to be using a pencil-neck Thompson pump that I sourced at the same time I grabbed the Bendix box. It mounts nicely to the power steering bracket (same as the one that UltraRanger uses).
#248
I recently found a Bendix steering box in good condition and I am going to attempt to install it. Given my a/c bracket configuration, I am not going to be able to use it with the power steering pump bracket. So, I have decided to remove the a/c bracket (after all of that heartache and finally getting it to work) and will be switching it out for an early to mid 80's stamped steel bracket. My question is, if I am not able to run one belt around the a/c and power steering pulley, is there anything wrong with running separate belts from the crankshaft to the a/c and one from the crankshaft to the power steering pulley? Remember that I had squealing when I tried to run the belt around the water pump pulley.
Also, does anyone know if you can bolt a generic Sanden compressor like mine to the stamped steel brackets that are prevalent on the early to mid 80's Broncos, Econolines and F15o trucks?
I am going to be using a pencil-neck Thompson pump that I sourced at the same time I grabbed the Bendix box. It mounts nicely to the power steering bracket (same as the one that UltraRanger uses).[/QUOTE]
Anyone with any insight?
Also, does anyone know if you can bolt a generic Sanden compressor like mine to the stamped steel brackets that are prevalent on the early to mid 80's Broncos, Econolines and F15o trucks?
I am going to be using a pencil-neck Thompson pump that I sourced at the same time I grabbed the Bendix box. It mounts nicely to the power steering bracket (same as the one that UltraRanger uses).[/QUOTE]
Anyone with any insight?
#249
Well, I mocked it up and the Sanden style compressor is really not a good fit. The mounting ears are rather small. I need them to extend a bit more. I may have to go back to the JY to locate another compressor or buy a refurb one. Another issue is I have some clearance issues with the hood (I think the hose is simply hitting the hood) that will need to be addressed.
#250
The A/C compressor bracket you are looking for, to mount the style of compressor you are wanting, looks like this. (Bracket is 2882 in the diagram below)
You'll need to find an '80-'86 Ford pickup with a 300 to get the brackets from. I pulled this bracket from an '82 model. --The factory A/C compressor I have on a 1990 Mustang 5.0L GT fuel injected engine has the same bolt pattern that matches the holes on the top mount of the 300's A/C bracket.
You'll need to find an '80-'86 Ford pickup with a 300 to get the brackets from. I pulled this bracket from an '82 model. --The factory A/C compressor I have on a 1990 Mustang 5.0L GT fuel injected engine has the same bolt pattern that matches the holes on the top mount of the 300's A/C bracket.
#251
--that appears to be a much older style compressor/bracket arrangement for the 300 in that Bullnose in the photo. Judging by the E-coil/bracket mounted to the fuel pump studs and the TFI distributor, I'd say that was in an '84-'86 model truck.
The best bet would be to get the style brackets for the style A/C compressor you're wanting to use.
Other compact styles of Ford A/C compressors are FS10 and FX15. I'm not certain of their mounting hole dimensions but, you could check them out as to their configuration and you might find some spec information online for them.
#252
#253
If you're talking about installing a more modern Ford FS6 A/C compressor to the brackets you have pictured in post 243, you might could mount it to those brackets but, I can't see that it would in any way be a direct installation. The FS6 compressors was used across many Ford vehicle lines.
--that appears to be a much older style compressor/bracket arrangement for the 300 in that Bullnose in the photo. Judging by the E-coil/bracket mounted to the fuel pump studs and the TFI distributor, I'd say that was in an '84-'86 model truck.
The best bet would be to get the style brackets for the style A/C compressor you're wanting to use.
Other compact styles of Ford A/C compressors are FS10 and FX15. I'm not certain of their mounting hole dimensions but, you could check them out as to their configuration and you might find some spec information online for them.
--that appears to be a much older style compressor/bracket arrangement for the 300 in that Bullnose in the photo. Judging by the E-coil/bracket mounted to the fuel pump studs and the TFI distributor, I'd say that was in an '84-'86 model truck.
The best bet would be to get the style brackets for the style A/C compressor you're wanting to use.
Other compact styles of Ford A/C compressors are FS10 and FX15. I'm not certain of their mounting hole dimensions but, you could check them out as to their configuration and you might find some spec information online for them.
#254
It is a little hard to se but why are you saying that bracket assy. does not hold the Sanden nicely?
It looks like you have all the right brackets. The main one to the side of the block with 4 bolts. Then you have 2 triangle parts that bolt to the main bracket with 2 nuts/bolts and 1 up to the compressor. Then the adjusting arm, I forget where it bolts to on the motor side and want to say there maybe one on the back side to support it.
If you can find all the brackets for the York compressor (80-late 81 when they switched to the Sanden compressor) but want to run the Sanden you can find an adaptor on Ebay that will let you bolt the Sanden to the York mount.
Over in the 80-88 Bull nose area we have talked about this if want some more information.
I am looking for AC compressor brackets myself, either style at this point. My early 81 used a York but will change to Sanden.
Dave ----
It looks like you have all the right brackets. The main one to the side of the block with 4 bolts. Then you have 2 triangle parts that bolt to the main bracket with 2 nuts/bolts and 1 up to the compressor. Then the adjusting arm, I forget where it bolts to on the motor side and want to say there maybe one on the back side to support it.
If you can find all the brackets for the York compressor (80-late 81 when they switched to the Sanden compressor) but want to run the Sanden you can find an adaptor on Ebay that will let you bolt the Sanden to the York mount.
Over in the 80-88 Bull nose area we have talked about this if want some more information.
I am looking for AC compressor brackets myself, either style at this point. My early 81 used a York but will change to Sanden.
Dave ----
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