NTM 06 f250 need diagnostic help with stutter
#1
NTM 06 f250 need diagnostic help with stutter
I traded my 99 7.3 for an 06 6.0l f250 ccsb with 68k. It drove fine during multiple test drives but upon picking the truck up, it had a slight stutter. At first I. Thought maybe it was from sitting on the lot for too long. The next day it got worse as the truck stutter but also lost power and lurched. At one point it cut out completely. The truck started right back up and I returned it to the dodge dealer I bought it from. They looked at it for a day and took it to ford who diagnosed it as turbo binding from rusty/coked up vanes. They removed it and cleaned it out. The truck ran fine for a day and then same symptoms again.
I brought the truck to a local ford, different than the first dealer, and they found no codes and could not duplicate the symptoms on multiple test drives. I drove the truck home and it was fine. Later that day symptoms returned. I was able to pull a p2284 code yesterday. It has not subsequently come back.
Cold engine
ICP koeo 4 idle 900. 1500rpm 1040
ICPV koeo .23 idle 1.12 1500rpm 1.25
IPR% koeo 14.4 idle 29.2 1500rpm 31
BARO koeo 14.5 idle 14.5
EOT 185*
ICP koeo 1 idle 585 2500rpm 1375
ICPV koeo .23 idle .81 2500rpm 1.57
IPR% koeo 14.4 iidle 21.8 2500rpm 37.7
BARO koeo 14.5 idle 14.5
EGR koeo 0. Idle 37. 2500rpm. 49
The dealer I bought the truck is still on the hook for fixing the truck under lemon laws. I need to figure out what to do here, whether it's worth the trouble to fix possibly taking several more trips to ford. Or get my money back and try again....
Thanks for the help
I brought the truck to a local ford, different than the first dealer, and they found no codes and could not duplicate the symptoms on multiple test drives. I drove the truck home and it was fine. Later that day symptoms returned. I was able to pull a p2284 code yesterday. It has not subsequently come back.
Cold engine
ICP koeo 4 idle 900. 1500rpm 1040
ICPV koeo .23 idle 1.12 1500rpm 1.25
IPR% koeo 14.4 idle 29.2 1500rpm 31
BARO koeo 14.5 idle 14.5
EOT 185*
ICP koeo 1 idle 585 2500rpm 1375
ICPV koeo .23 idle .81 2500rpm 1.57
IPR% koeo 14.4 iidle 21.8 2500rpm 37.7
BARO koeo 14.5 idle 14.5
EGR koeo 0. Idle 37. 2500rpm. 49
The dealer I bought the truck is still on the hook for fixing the truck under lemon laws. I need to figure out what to do here, whether it's worth the trouble to fix possibly taking several more trips to ford. Or get my money back and try again....
Thanks for the help
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Yes that's Normal and Good as it shows the PCM is Excersizing the Turbo Veins to avoid them getting sooted up
The Change in the exhaust note means the turbo veins are moving this is Good!!
P2284 ICP Injector Control Pressure Sensor Circuit Range/Performance A difference in commanded versus actual injection oil pressure was detected.
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The dealer I purchased the truck from is willing to foot the bill so I will be taking it into ford on Monday with the info I gathered on the ipr. Thank you for the help, I'll update as things progress.
Is there any possible damage to the components or injectors from the ipr issues?
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The Ford dealer said that the p2284 code the truck was showing is part of a TSB that calls for ipr and oil cooler replacement. They will be doing both this week, I don't know that the oil cooler is bad as the data indicates it is working fine, but if they're willing to do it is there a reason not to?
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I called the dealer and the person I spoke with who had cited the TSB was not there, I will try again tomorrow. There were several other dtc's he rattled off in reference to whichever TSB he was looking at. I have a feeling since the code I was able to pull was on the list of codes, they're just going with the fix listed in this particular TSB?
Again, I will try to track down the info in the morning.
Again, I will try to track down the info in the morning.
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https://www.motorcraftservice.com/pu...15/V4C5074.HTM
Heres the pinpoint test, for what its worth, following it leads to a new pcm.... that won't fix it either
Heres the pinpoint test, for what its worth, following it leads to a new pcm.... that won't fix it either
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https://www.motorcraftservice.com/pu...15/V4C5074.HTM
Heres the pinpoint test, for what its worth, following it leads to a new pcm.... that won't fix it either
Heres the pinpoint test, for what its worth, following it leads to a new pcm.... that won't fix it either
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Update:
Truck is back from the dealer with a new oil cooler and ipr. Runs really strong stutter is completely gone.
There seems to be a leak from the coolant system, the truck leave a few drips up to a 6" round spot after being run. If I wiggle the upper radiator hose bubbles come out where the hose meets the radiator. Coolant looks like it drips down the side of the radiator and onto the ground depending which side of the truck is higher. I'm hoping it is just the hose clamp and nothing more.
Truck is back from the dealer with a new oil cooler and ipr. Runs really strong stutter is completely gone.
There seems to be a leak from the coolant system, the truck leave a few drips up to a 6" round spot after being run. If I wiggle the upper radiator hose bubbles come out where the hose meets the radiator. Coolant looks like it drips down the side of the radiator and onto the ground depending which side of the truck is higher. I'm hoping it is just the hose clamp and nothing more.
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Worm clamps like those on cac boots? Just to clarify.
Clamp seems secure but if I squeeze hose it will bubble at 12o'clock where hose meets radiator. Is is possible that the plastic port of the radiator is cracked? Did not have a leak before work was done recently.
Clamp seems secure but if I squeeze hose it will bubble at 12o'clock where hose meets radiator. Is is possible that the plastic port of the radiator is cracked? Did not have a leak before work was done recently.