Any updates? Release date?
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#3
There is a link on the Ford site that indicates aluminum metal forming is causing a delay in production start date.
Having been a metalist for 40 years, can appreciate the difficulity in forming the truck body parts from aluminum and more difficult than forming steel parts.
If high strength heat treated aluminum is cold formed, the material may crack.
High strength steel does not have as much chance of cracking during the cold forming operation.
Usually the lower strength un heat treated aluminum alloy is formed, then the formed material is heat treated to proper high strength properties.
When metal is permanently deformed to a shape there is a so called spring back from the initial amount of forming deformation back to the final shape. This the elastic portion of the total deformation.
When heating the final shape to heat treat thermal gradients develop in the materials.
These thermal gradients create a state of stress in the metal and if sufficiently large enough, the metal will permanenly deform, again. The final heat treated shape is then not the desired shape. The level of thermal gradient is dependent on the geometry of the part. The higher the thermal gradient, the higher th stress.
From the Ford site showing the shape of the aluminum body, it appears there are some rather complex formed shapes.
Having been a metalist for 40 years, can appreciate the difficulity in forming the truck body parts from aluminum and more difficult than forming steel parts.
If high strength heat treated aluminum is cold formed, the material may crack.
High strength steel does not have as much chance of cracking during the cold forming operation.
Usually the lower strength un heat treated aluminum alloy is formed, then the formed material is heat treated to proper high strength properties.
When metal is permanently deformed to a shape there is a so called spring back from the initial amount of forming deformation back to the final shape. This the elastic portion of the total deformation.
When heating the final shape to heat treat thermal gradients develop in the materials.
These thermal gradients create a state of stress in the metal and if sufficiently large enough, the metal will permanenly deform, again. The final heat treated shape is then not the desired shape. The level of thermal gradient is dependent on the geometry of the part. The higher the thermal gradient, the higher th stress.
From the Ford site showing the shape of the aluminum body, it appears there are some rather complex formed shapes.
#4
Still 16 of July for orders
F150
Dearborn Plant
Orderbook opens 16 Jul 2014
SOP 20 Oct 2014
according to
Ford Trucks: Build-out and Start-Up Dates
and several others.
Dearborn Plant
Orderbook opens 16 Jul 2014
SOP 20 Oct 2014
according to
Ford Trucks: Build-out and Start-Up Dates
and several others.
#6
I mailed Mike Levine at Ford and got the answer that SOON the orderbooks will be open. The information from Ford Trucks: Build-out and Start-Up Dates
is not really correct. SOON.
I think that the information about hp and mpg will be released at that time.
#7
There is a link on the Ford site that indicates aluminum metal forming is causing a delay in production start date.
Having been a metalist for 40 years, can appreciate the difficulity in forming the truck body parts from aluminum and more difficult than forming steel parts.
If high strength heat treated aluminum is cold formed, the material may crack.
High strength steel does not have as much chance of cracking during the cold forming operation.
Usually the lower strength un heat treated aluminum alloy is formed, then the formed material is heat treated to proper high strength properties.
When metal is permanently deformed to a shape there is a so called spring back from the initial amount of forming deformation back to the final shape. This the elastic portion of the total deformation.
When heating the final shape to heat treat thermal gradients develop in the materials.
These thermal gradients create a state of stress in the metal and if sufficiently large enough, the metal will permanenly deform, again. The final heat treated shape is then not the desired shape. The level of thermal gradient is dependent on the geometry of the part. The higher the thermal gradient, the higher th stress.
From the Ford site showing the shape of the aluminum body, it appears there are some rather complex formed shapes.
Having been a metalist for 40 years, can appreciate the difficulity in forming the truck body parts from aluminum and more difficult than forming steel parts.
If high strength heat treated aluminum is cold formed, the material may crack.
High strength steel does not have as much chance of cracking during the cold forming operation.
Usually the lower strength un heat treated aluminum alloy is formed, then the formed material is heat treated to proper high strength properties.
When metal is permanently deformed to a shape there is a so called spring back from the initial amount of forming deformation back to the final shape. This the elastic portion of the total deformation.
When heating the final shape to heat treat thermal gradients develop in the materials.
These thermal gradients create a state of stress in the metal and if sufficiently large enough, the metal will permanenly deform, again. The final heat treated shape is then not the desired shape. The level of thermal gradient is dependent on the geometry of the part. The higher the thermal gradient, the higher th stress.
From the Ford site showing the shape of the aluminum body, it appears there are some rather complex formed shapes.
( I think you already knew that but you purposely failed to mention that )
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#8
Glue joints are as strong, if not stronger that spot welds. Its been proven to be strong enough for semi trucks, so there is no reason it cant be used on a pick up truck. Did you make an account just to bash the new f-150 that hasn't even been released yet?
#9
I mailed Mike Levine at Ford and got the answer that SOON the orderbooks will be open. The information from Ford Trucks: Build-out and Start-Up Dates
is not really correct. SOON.
I think that the information about hp and mpg will be released at that time.
is not really correct. SOON.
I think that the information about hp and mpg will be released at that time.
He knows
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#11
Just interviewed for a job that may include a company truck. Pretty sure that company buys fords. Wonder if they'd buy me a 2015 Lariat EcoBoost? I guess we'll see. . . . .
Who's got guesses for when the order book will open and when they'll show up on Canadian dealer lots?
Who's got guesses for when the order book will open and when they'll show up on Canadian dealer lots?
#12
Just interviewed for a job that may include a company truck. Pretty sure that company buys fords. Wonder if they'd buy me a 2015 Lariat EcoBoost? I guess we'll see. . . . .
Who's got guesses for when the order book will open and when they'll show up on Canadian dealer lots?
Who's got guesses for when the order book will open and when they'll show up on Canadian dealer lots?
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