1989 F150 Electrical Short
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1989 F150 Electrical Short
Have a 1989 F150, 4W Drive, with the 6 cylinder engine with 67,000 miles on it. Been sitting for about two years and decided to put it back on the road. I bought a new battery and discovered a short drawing about 3amps.
I did the usual checking by pulling one fuse at a time but could not isolate it. Yesterday I found the start of a solution. At the solenoid on the battery side there are a lot of wires attached on the battery side. There are two heavy gauge yellow wires there and by removing one, the short disappears. Problem is that the wire also disappears into a harness and I can't find the other end. I do have all the shop manuals but I can't figure out how to find what this wire feeds. Help please.
I did the usual checking by pulling one fuse at a time but could not isolate it. Yesterday I found the start of a solution. At the solenoid on the battery side there are a lot of wires attached on the battery side. There are two heavy gauge yellow wires there and by removing one, the short disappears. Problem is that the wire also disappears into a harness and I can't find the other end. I do have all the shop manuals but I can't figure out how to find what this wire feeds. Help please.
#3
With what Mr. Subford said and what I saw on my truck last night, I'd check your relays. Almost seems as if one is closed when it shouldn't be. I don't remember if there is a fuse for this or not but if there is, it would be in the engine compartment fuse box and not the fuse box in the cab.
#4
I pulled both EEC relay and the Fuel Pump Relay. Still shows a draw on my meter. I am trying to figure out how to check the Ignition Switch and where to check it. I have the Ford Factory Manuals Both hard copies and a CD I picked up on EBay for my computer but they are really hard to find things in, for me. I find them confusing to say the least.
I had trouble answering your post yesterday as I was shut out of the forum after changing my email address. I had to register under a new name in order to answer you. Crazy. I was signed in but kept getting message I did nave authority to post or go to certain pages. Maybe I am too old for this sort of thing.
By the way, I want to thank both of you for the very quick response.
Nick
I had trouble answering your post yesterday as I was shut out of the forum after changing my email address. I had to register under a new name in order to answer you. Crazy. I was signed in but kept getting message I did nave authority to post or go to certain pages. Maybe I am too old for this sort of thing.
By the way, I want to thank both of you for the very quick response.
Nick
#5
Starter solenoid is activated by the ignition switch, the wire from the ignition switch goes through the firewall in a large ~70 pin connector next to the PCM. From there it goes along the driver's side fender, around the front of the radiator and to the SMALL post on the top of the solenoid. Pull that and see if your problem goes away. If not then you might want to replace that, it's cheap
#7
Using a Simpson 260 meter, I get a 1 amp draw from the large yellow wire going to the two above mentioned relays. Removing the wire coming from the ignition switch I get a 2 amp draw.
Maybe I am doing something wrong. I connect the negative side of the meter to the post on the solenoid and the positive lead to the wire itself. Red is plugged into the 5 amp socket on the meter and black on the common socket.
Maybe I am doing something wrong. I connect the negative side of the meter to the post on the solenoid and the positive lead to the wire itself. Red is plugged into the 5 amp socket on the meter and black on the common socket.
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#8
Put all that starter stuff back together. Take a picture of your fuses and relays in the engine compartment fuse box and then remove them all, even the diode for the PCM. With everything removed, do you still have a drain? You shouldn't have. The yellow wire goes to that fuse box and supplies power to everything in there. If you still have a drain, maybe remove the fuse box from it's holder and remove the bottom cover to see if anything is fishy in that area. If that's not it, and without being there, I am not sure what else it could be.
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These are great. Thanks. I have all the manuals except for the red one which is the electrical and vacuum trouble shooting manual. However I do have it on a disk. Think I will print it out. Only 156 pages. I am able to comprehend things better from a hard copy. It's only ink and paper. I reload my own ink and the paper is free. I really don't know how to thank you for all the quick and ready help you have given me. I am assuming you are a former master mechanic and are retired. Am I right?
Nick
Nick
#14
Something I forgot to mention, is that I must replace the alternator. It is only putting out about 12 volts. I inherited this truck from my uncle about 5 years ago. As you can tell from the low mileage on it he did not use it very much especially towards the end of his life. When I first got it I used it some but it has sat for the last two years.
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