Another option....Nice set up, I used it on mine.

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Subscribing to this thread. I plan on using an F150 5.0 and 6 speed auto trans in my project assuming that defeating the VATS is a non issue by then.

 

So, I sent an email request to HPtuners and asked about their software's abilities regarding PATS on 2011-2014 Mustang and F150 PCMs. As you can see from their response below, they can not turn off PATS on these systems.

I also know from talking directly with SCT that they can not turn PATS off as well.

Ford made a significant change to their PATS security system design starting in 2011. The code for PATS is not in the addressable EEPROM, it is in the operating system. A Ford Dealer can reset it, but it can not be turned off even by Dealer.

The operating system used in the Ford Racing Controls Pak for the 5.0L Coyote (M/T applications only) does not have PATS. Several software suppliers are looking into the differences between the production operating system and that used in the Ford Control Pak PCMs to see if they can find a solution to disable PATS for 6R80 Production PCM, but as yet, no such solution exists.

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Walt,


Not yet, but we are working on it.

HP Tuners is a very powerful tool. Be certain that the changes you make with the HP Tuners products are legal in your area and application.

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Thank you!

Jay Payson
HP Tuners


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Details: Can your software turn off PATS on 2011-2014 Mustang and F150 systems?

Thanks,

Walt

 

I wouldn't have a problem running the computer from the controls pack if they could / would add automatic transmission functionality to it. I'm a little surprised that Ford did not consider that the controls pack would be used for street rod applications where auto transmissions are what most people want.

So perhaps the question is better posed to Ford?

 

When I was looking for a new drive train for my project I bumped into a couple of engine gurus at the Spokane auto show and they told me to pick up a crown vic cop car if possible because the police versions do not have PATS in the PCM.
So I did exactly that and the 4.6 that I pulled out fired right up and runs great. I will have to have the pcm flashed at some point to get rid of the rear o2 sensor codes but the point is,,,,it runs.


Do the newer police cars still have no PATS like the 04 cv? I am totally unsure if they run 5.0's but I would bet that some do.

 

Project55,

Good question you are asking. I know what you are saying is true for 2001-2011 police units with a 4.6L and 5R55.

It would have to be a police package for a Mustang 5.0L/6R80 or a F150 5.0L(which only comes with 6R80), and after checking Ford's police package offerings, I do not see either listed.

Ford does, however, offer a police package on the Explorer with the 3.5L Ecoboost. I wonder if those come without PATS operational?

Need to find a friendly local police officer or better yet Police motor Pool manager!

Walt

 

Its most likely too new for the police dept to know (most repairs are still under warranty)
I am going to "guess" and say no PATS on newer models.

 

AEM Infinity Coyote Standalone ECU Plug-N-Play - http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/interior-electrical/1505-aem-infinity-coyote-standalone-ecu-is-a-plug-n-play-for-any-engine-combo/?sm_id=social_aumomustangshub_default_20150330_429 63236&adbid=10153103693611001&adbpl=fb&adbpr=41204 856000#__federated=1

Too bad that it doesn't mention anything about controlling the transmission...

 

Any updates, my engine is actually at a shop in Sacramento, I am going into a fox Mustang, but I came across this wiring thread and wanted to see if anyone made any headway. My donor vehicle was a 2013 f-150.

 

This was posted a week ago in another Ford Forum :
"I called 3ish weeks ago and they said it was in testing and hopefully end of June/July. I know how dates get pushed back so I'm not getting my hopes up. They stated it would be externally adjustable without the requirement of a computer. That's the only real reason I'm waiting. Should be easier to tune and control I'd think."

 

is the oem dash guages required for the oem ecm to work????

 

On a vehicle with PATS yes needs the whole cluster, I know on some of the vehicles with PATS if you turn the key on with the cluster removed the PATS locks it up.
I also know that the data for the key fobs, axle ratio, tire size is also stored on a chip in the cluster.
I talked to a tuner last week about removing the PATS from a coyote PCM and he tells me that the starter control circuit is incorporated with the PATS and that's where the problem is.

 

i'm working with a 96 mark viii, and there is a whole bunch of stuff i don't want to deal with, that the computer monitors... i'm considering the ford motorsports ecu, and then get a transmission controller. i wouldn't have to deal with all of the junk.
but i would have to spend a bunch of $$$, which i would rather spend on final paint..

 

Your 96 can PCM can be reprogramed, I can recommend someone that can do for a very reasonable price. PM me if your interested, I just sent a 97 Mark VIII out to him today.

 

Im looking for a shift cable for the 6R80 and my Ididit column. Will the 2011 f150 column shifter cable work?
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