Very high EOT with new Oil Cooler
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Even blocked I don't think it would STarve
In theory it shouldn't
It will take Multiple Failures to Create a Starved situation
#49
Benny, so you think they added that bypass to keep the pressure in the cooler down when the oil is cold? And it had nothing to do with potentially starving the engine for oil during high demand?
If so, you could be right. If your correct, then our volunteer just blows his oil cooler. What a way to take one for the team.
If so, you could be right. If your correct, then our volunteer just blows his oil cooler. What a way to take one for the team.
#50
I don't see anyone Doing that Test LOL
Im thinking if the Bypass Opens the Pressure Equalizes Fast and should Close Back up
Im thinking All the Bypasses are is if there is a Pluggage there is an Alternate Path so it Won't starve or that was the Intention
But Say you Punch it WOT Im thinking the Bypass opens a split second or two until stabilized or Really within the 20-25 psi Differential On each side of the bypass.
I'm thinking that's what we see when you Watch EOT and Go WOT for a Few and 2-3 seconds Later you see EOT Jump 2*-3*F Higher then it was before you Punched it ALL your seeing is Oil that Bypassed that Oil Cooler. Certainly the Oil didn't make a Full Loop and was heat soaked oil your Looking At it not flowing that Fast
Any WOT Oil Cooler Test for efficiency is a Bust From this point on IMO
Wonder what 6 Digit a Year Salery FORD Guy wrote the WOT Oil Cooler Efficiancy Test that Pointless
Im thinking if the Bypass Opens the Pressure Equalizes Fast and should Close Back up
Im thinking All the Bypasses are is if there is a Pluggage there is an Alternate Path so it Won't starve or that was the Intention
But Say you Punch it WOT Im thinking the Bypass opens a split second or two until stabilized or Really within the 20-25 psi Differential On each side of the bypass.
I'm thinking that's what we see when you Watch EOT and Go WOT for a Few and 2-3 seconds Later you see EOT Jump 2*-3*F Higher then it was before you Punched it ALL your seeing is Oil that Bypassed that Oil Cooler. Certainly the Oil didn't make a Full Loop and was heat soaked oil your Looking At it not flowing that Fast
Any WOT Oil Cooler Test for efficiency is a Bust From this point on IMO
Wonder what 6 Digit a Year Salery FORD Guy wrote the WOT Oil Cooler Efficiancy Test that Pointless
#51
Benny, you just posted you think there are two reasons for the bypass valve. I don't think it has anything to do with potential oil side cooler blockage. I think the bypass valve opens at WOT to prevent starving the systems for oil. I think it closes pretty quickly. I'd almost bet a tank of diesel that the bypass valve didn't exist on some test engines.
Also agreed on the WOT test on oil coolers.
Also agreed on the WOT test on oil coolers.
#52
Well I see it Opening for 2 Reasons "Pluggage" or "Pressure Equalization" wih the Final Goal being Starvation prevention
Now which one of the reasons it was designed for IDK
I assume Pluggage so if there is a Problem the Truck could possibly Limp to Help instead of being stranded
But I have No Idea to be Honest
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They Certainly didnt Plan for the Coolant side to Plug in that Oil Cooler
Its Scary to think about All the info here that All of us Scrutinize so close Any Flaw will be found in time
Works Great for Us the Consumer
But the Ford Engineer cant like it much anything he Missed will be Found
I can just see the engineer say well I told them About that Problem and they said it wasn't cost effective to do When in reality he Missed it
Its Scary to think about All the info here that All of us Scrutinize so close Any Flaw will be found in time
Works Great for Us the Consumer
But the Ford Engineer cant like it much anything he Missed will be Found
I can just see the engineer say well I told them About that Problem and they said it wasn't cost effective to do When in reality he Missed it
#55
The oil pump is positive displacement, it will build pressure. The relief valve protects the cooler from cold or congealed oil restricting the flow and building enough pressure to burst the cooler or any other weak link upstream.
The water pump is not positive displacement and will not build pressure. Coolant pressure is controlled by heat or air pressure pre charge.
The water pump is not positive displacement and will not build pressure. Coolant pressure is controlled by heat or air pressure pre charge.
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Does make me wonder when back in the day a guy would replace a cooler, end up with high temps again, blame casting sand or some other voodoo, replace with another cooler and be right back again with high temps.
Then the guy disappears from the forum when all along he may have had a bad bypass valve.
D'Oh!
We know better now
But, all things considered if one has a high temp spread, replaces the oil cooler and knows they did a pretty good job during the flush... and ends up they still have high temps, it just might be the bypass.
Josh