Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Older, Classic & Antique Trucks > 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks

Welcome to Ford-Trucks Forums!
Welcome to Ford-Trucks.com.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Ford-Trucks Forums community today!





 
Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #16  
Old 06-27-2013, 09:36 PM
jniolon's Avatar
jniolon jniolon is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Jul 1997
Location: Beautiful Hueytown Alabam
Posts: 3,226
jniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to behold
bobby,

rear c.m. sllides into bedsides where the rear stake pockets are... and the tailgate hinge and tail light bolts hold it in place. No way to move it... it's backside is flush with the bed end and the roll pan mounts to it on that side...

Sam... never thought of that... duh ? My rear c.m. has no holes in the top like yours but then again I bought it a looooong time ago...

notching the orig will solve the problem of getting nuts up in there to hold down the rear cover angle for sure

but thinking about notching the orig... the rear c.m. really helps support the bed sides and the wood right ??? I don't want to weaken it, do I ... that's why I thought of the tubing... my c.m. is a three sided thingy with the bottom open... think adding the notches would make it weak enough to cause a problem ???

see... that's why I ask you guys these questions... you get all the cobwebs out of my head...
__________________
my stuff.....
jniolon.classicpickup.com
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-27-2013, 09:43 PM
bobbytnm's Avatar
bobbytnm bobbytnm is offline
Roast em' if you got 'em
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Rio Rancho, NM
Posts: 10,852
bobbytnm is a splendid one to beholdbobbytnm is a splendid one to beholdbobbytnm is a splendid one to beholdbobbytnm is a splendid one to beholdbobbytnm is a splendid one to beholdbobbytnm is a splendid one to beholdbobbytnm is a splendid one to beholdbobbytnm is a splendid one to behold
John,
I was afraid of that. I knew it sounded to simple.

You could try notching the original. If it seemed too wimbly-wambly after poking holes in it you could possible add a few cross pieces across the open bottom end of it to stiffen it back up.

....or.....if you do decide to fabricate a new rear x-member you might be able to fab it out of 1" wide tubing instead of 2" wide, thereby eliminating the need to spend all the time notching it.

...just tossing crap out there.....

Bobby
__________________
...Someday our foes may win...
...but NOT today!!
1949 F1, 500ci Caddy
1967 Jeepster Commando
1994 Harley Road King
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06-27-2013, 10:14 PM
jniolon's Avatar
jniolon jniolon is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Jul 1997
Location: Beautiful Hueytown Alabam
Posts: 3,226
jniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to behold
well you got me thinking Bob...

instead of cutouts... why not just wack a corner off the 2x4 tube the full length???

Click the image to open in full size.

sorry the drawing is a little sketchy... was in a hurry

still have plenty of meat for strength and a slot to get the nuts into for the bedwood and the rear sill ???... by george... I think we have a solution...

Bob, you're not nearly as dim as Penn Dick says you are...

j

but thinking a little further.... leave the ends intact... so it would fill the stake pocket properly and just notch out the whole "inside bed" part !!! but I'm not trying to sketch that... it's late
__________________
my stuff.....
jniolon.classicpickup.com
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-27-2013, 10:47 PM
bobbytnm's Avatar
bobbytnm bobbytnm is offline
Roast em' if you got 'em
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Rio Rancho, NM
Posts: 10,852
bobbytnm is a splendid one to beholdbobbytnm is a splendid one to beholdbobbytnm is a splendid one to beholdbobbytnm is a splendid one to beholdbobbytnm is a splendid one to beholdbobbytnm is a splendid one to beholdbobbytnm is a splendid one to beholdbobbytnm is a splendid one to behold
Penn Dick? what does he know....LOL

It looks like it could work. It should give you plenty of room for washers and nuts


Bobby
__________________
...Someday our foes may win...
...but NOT today!!
1949 F1, 500ci Caddy
1967 Jeepster Commando
1994 Harley Road King
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 06-28-2013, 08:04 AM
sdetweil's Avatar
sdetweil sdetweil is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Liberty Hill, tx
Posts: 9,585
sdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud of
I would make 6 half moon cuts in the ecm, and fold that edge UP, level with the top of the cross member..

then drill hole for bolt thru that new flange.

this will hold the boards DOWN (don't need much strength here), and the cross member will still support the weight.. you gonna haul a bedload of rock? in your pretty bed?..

most thats been in mine is me, cleaning the bed floor.

to do what you want you have to completely disassemble the bed.. mine is remove the wood. (yes it would be easier using a drill press to make the cuts)
__________________
Sam

1955 F100 460/c6, 3.55ls - 436 hp, 489 tq
2012 F350 4x4, DRW, 3.73ls, CC, LB, 400 hp, 800 tq
2013 Keystone Alpine 3720FB 5th wheel. 40', 15,500gvwr
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 06-28-2013, 09:07 AM
jniolon's Avatar
jniolon jniolon is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Jul 1997
Location: Beautiful Hueytown Alabam
Posts: 3,226
jniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdetweil View Post
I would make 6 half moon cuts in the ecm, and fold that edge UP, level with the top of the cross member..

then drill hole for bolt thru that new flange.

this will hold the boards DOWN (don't need much strength here), and the cross member will still support the weight.. you gonna haul a bedload of rock? in your pretty bed?..

most thats been in mine is me, cleaning the bed floor.

to do what you want you have to completely disassemble the bed.. mine is remove the wood. (yes it would be easier using a drill press to make the cuts)

this what you mean ???Click the image to open in full size.




my bed will be like yours in weight carrying !!!
__________________
my stuff.....
jniolon.classicpickup.com
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 06-28-2013, 09:31 AM
sdetweil's Avatar
sdetweil sdetweil is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Liberty Hill, tx
Posts: 9,585
sdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by jniolon View Post
this what you mean ???Click the image to open in full size.




my bed will be like yours in weight carrying !!!

correct. I think the rear sill (ecm) is 14ga. so plenty strong for hold down.
__________________
Sam

1955 F100 460/c6, 3.55ls - 436 hp, 489 tq
2012 F350 4x4, DRW, 3.73ls, CC, LB, 400 hp, 800 tq
2013 Keystone Alpine 3720FB 5th wheel. 40', 15,500gvwr
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 06-28-2013, 09:42 AM
homade's Avatar
homade homade is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: sparta ky.
Posts: 2,189
homade has a good reputation on FTE.homade has a good reputation on FTE.homade has a good reputation on FTE.
John, are you sure the front cross member is in correctly, it is offset so maybe it needs to be swapped end to end .
__________________
51 F1--49 F3 tilt deck hauler-2011 F150 XLT, crew, 4x4,--09 Chrysler PTC-DREAM CRUISER--08 H22 Hummer Golf Cart::
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 06-28-2013, 10:21 AM
jniolon's Avatar
jniolon jniolon is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Jul 1997
Location: Beautiful Hueytown Alabam
Posts: 3,226
jniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to behold
Well Sam... you know me well.... there is always that possiblity... I've been bassackwards before

but I don't think so... here's a pic of the front crossmember attached to the bed... if it were backwards (spun around on the wrong axis) the mounting tubes for the bed bolts would be outside the bed and wouldn't line up with the bed brackets that are mounted outside the frame rails... would it ???



and here's Mid-50s pic
Attached Images
  
__________________
my stuff.....
jniolon.classicpickup.com
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 06-28-2013, 01:28 PM
sdetweil's Avatar
sdetweil sdetweil is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Liberty Hill, tx
Posts: 9,585
sdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by jniolon View Post
Well Sam... you know me well.... there is always that possiblity... I've been bassackwards before

but I don't think so... here's a pic of the front crossmember attached to the bed... if it were backwards (spun around on the wrong axis) the mounting tubes for the bed bolts would be outside the bed and wouldn't line up with the bed brackets that are mounted outside the frame rails... would it ???

and here's Mid-50s pic
front looks correct.. but wasn't me that asked!

Sam
__________________
Sam

1955 F100 460/c6, 3.55ls - 436 hp, 489 tq
2012 F350 4x4, DRW, 3.73ls, CC, LB, 400 hp, 800 tq
2013 Keystone Alpine 3720FB 5th wheel. 40', 15,500gvwr
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 06-28-2013, 01:37 PM
jniolon's Avatar
jniolon jniolon is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Jul 1997
Location: Beautiful Hueytown Alabam
Posts: 3,226
jniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to behold
sorry Sam.... it was Homade that asked... but at least I know it's right
__________________
my stuff.....
jniolon.classicpickup.com
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 06-28-2013, 02:18 PM
tip49's Avatar
tip49 tip49 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Alberta Canada
Posts: 1,487
tip49 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Woes in bed

Click the image to open in full size.

John;

I'm having some of the same issues in bed as you; I originally thought it was attributed to age, but I think fitment on the cross member comes into play as well. :0)

I will have to remove my gas tank in order to get the nuts on the carriage bolts at the back of the bed; as well my cross member seems to be lower than the frame crossmembers. I will need to shim the back to have the boards level with the rest of the bed. I am goiing to use a s/s end trim across the back of the bed, so having the gas tank off will make this install easier.

When I installed my bed boards, I did not layout the whole bed prior to fastening them down, so I ended up with a gap that is wider than the last board. I will have to "fill the void" with wood or metal . The spacing between boards compounds as the centre is reached. I was going to have to make some adjustments to the bed anyway, as I will be routing in a fuel door to cover my gas filler cap.
__________________
1950 Ford F47 Resto-mod
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 06-30-2013, 04:18 PM
jniolon's Avatar
jniolon jniolon is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Jul 1997
Location: Beautiful Hueytown Alabam
Posts: 3,226
jniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to behold
so here's an afternoon's work...

first I took the 2x4 tubing and added 5 in or so to it to get the right length

Click the image to open in full size.

I started cutting out notches with a hole saw... and didn't like that... then tried using Metabo with cut off wheel and making square notches... didn't like that... gawd I'm picky... then I cut the whole corner of the tube out with my plasma cutter, dressed it slightly and added the mounting angles on the inside (bedside of truck)

Click the image to open in full size.

Click the image to open in full size.
then I slid it into place for fit (sorry, some of the pictures are a little busy, but I wasn't gonna move all that crap... zoom in !

[IMG]http://jniolon.classicpickup.com\bedassembly\crossmember3 .jpg[/IMG
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.

so, Sam, Bobby, et all..... watcha think

john
__________________
my stuff.....
jniolon.classicpickup.com
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 06-30-2013, 04:34 PM
sdetweil's Avatar
sdetweil sdetweil is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Liberty Hill, tx
Posts: 9,585
sdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud ofsdetweil has much to be proud of
why don't your pictures show?
__________________
Sam

1955 F100 460/c6, 3.55ls - 436 hp, 489 tq
2012 F350 4x4, DRW, 3.73ls, CC, LB, 400 hp, 800 tq
2013 Keystone Alpine 3720FB 5th wheel. 40', 15,500gvwr
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 06-30-2013, 04:37 PM
jniolon's Avatar
jniolon jniolon is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Jul 1997
Location: Beautiful Hueytown Alabam
Posts: 3,226
jniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to beholdjniolon is a splendid one to behold
they are showing for me ?????
__________________
my stuff.....
jniolon.classicpickup.com
Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2013, 04:37 PM
 
 
 
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
real world horsepower adders !!!!! jniolon 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 8 01-20-2014 02:55 PM
ideas on making a hicky-thing dimpling? jniolon 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 16 09-08-2013 02:00 AM
bedwood problems and solutions jniolon 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 6 07-28-2013 01:49 PM
cab dolly for removing the cab jniolon 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 16 06-14-2013 05:13 PM
My car hauler now has a pullie thingy jniolon 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 16 05-16-2013 01:33 PM


Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Older, Classic & Antique Trucks > 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup