Anybody ever stretch a Flareside bed to 8'?
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Anybody ever stretch a Flareside bed to 8'?
Spring weather is here, and it's time to start my truck build/restoration project. I am thinking of stretching out a Flareside bed to 8' to replace my trashed out styleside bed, just wondering if anyone has ever done this before, and how it turned out. This is my truck...
And I pulled this at a junkyard last year...
I know there are mixed responses to putting a fender bed behind a crew cab, and admittedly a 6.5' Flareside behind a crew can look pretty goofy, but I think an 8' Flareside behind the crew would be pretty nice. Anyone ever do this modification? Does not seem like it would be too hard. I will be starting a build thread over on the pre-powerstroke IDI forum, as most of my build will revolve around a mild to medium turbo diesel engine build. Could really use this group's input on the 80-86 body stuff though. Thanks for you input, especially you flaresiders!
And I pulled this at a junkyard last year...
I know there are mixed responses to putting a fender bed behind a crew cab, and admittedly a 6.5' Flareside behind a crew can look pretty goofy, but I think an 8' Flareside behind the crew would be pretty nice. Anyone ever do this modification? Does not seem like it would be too hard. I will be starting a build thread over on the pre-powerstroke IDI forum, as most of my build will revolve around a mild to medium turbo diesel engine build. Could really use this group's input on the 80-86 body stuff though. Thanks for you input, especially you flaresiders!
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I would personally try and find a 1973-1979 8 foot flareside bed, rebuild the floor and put the 1980-1986 fenders and tailgate on that.
Would save a whole bunch of work.
Last year of the factory 8' flareside was 1979. Last year of the 9' flareside was 1972.
Very little difference between these beds from 1953-1987 except for cosmetic differences so some parts can be switched around easily or made to work without too much effort.
Definately something to look around for before you decide to make your own.
Would save a whole bunch of work.
Last year of the factory 8' flareside was 1979. Last year of the 9' flareside was 1972.
Very little difference between these beds from 1953-1987 except for cosmetic differences so some parts can be switched around easily or made to work without too much effort.
Definately something to look around for before you decide to make your own.
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I would personally try and find a 1973-1979 8 foot flareside bed, rebuild the floor and put the 1980-1986 fenders and tailgate on that.
Would save a whole bunch of work.
Last year of the factory 8' flareside was 1979. Last year of the 9' flareside was 1972.
Very little difference between these beds from 1953-1987 except for cosmetic differences so some parts can be switched around easily or made to work without too much effort.
Definately something to look around for before you decide to make your own.
Would save a whole bunch of work.
Last year of the factory 8' flareside was 1979. Last year of the 9' flareside was 1972.
Very little difference between these beds from 1953-1987 except for cosmetic differences so some parts can be switched around easily or made to work without too much effort.
Definately something to look around for before you decide to make your own.
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I would personally try and find a 1973-1979 8 foot flareside bed, rebuild the floor and put the 1980-1986 fenders and tailgate on that.
Would save a whole bunch of work.
Last year of the factory 8' flareside was 1979. Last year of the 9' flareside was 1972.
Very little difference between these beds from 1953-1987 except for cosmetic differences so some parts can be switched around easily or made to work without too much effort.
Definately something to look around for before you decide to make your own.
Would save a whole bunch of work.
Last year of the factory 8' flareside was 1979. Last year of the 9' flareside was 1972.
Very little difference between these beds from 1953-1987 except for cosmetic differences so some parts can be switched around easily or made to work without too much effort.
Definately something to look around for before you decide to make your own.
A 73-79 eight footer would probably be perfect, but also probably a moot point. ANY kind of flareside bed is becoming quite the rare and high priced collectors item, and I believe I have only ever seen ONE eight foot Ford flareside bed in person... on a nice, ex-forest service dentside truck in someone's driveway.*
This is not a super "high budget" classic car restoration type project, so I wont be spending a mint on collectable parts or fancy reproductions. I bought the flareside bed for 150$, and i still need to find a tailgate. I have a few ideas on how to stretch my bed if I have to, might start a "bed build thread" separate from the truck build thread on this forum since the IDI crowd isn't too into flares LOL.*
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Thanks for these great pictures John! I am seeing that this particular 8 footer has the slanted bed rails even though its on a dentside, so that makes me wonder if they ever made an updated, wider box 8 footer. Come to think of it the one I saw had the slanted bed rails also iirc. Not that box width matters all that much, but it would set the fenders inward a couple inches on each side (I want to say 3" per side?) which might look odd and possibly cause tire clearance issue when loaded. I need to get my facts correct concerning the box dimensions through the years.
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1973-1979 had the same box width length and wheelbase as 1980-1996.
For completion sake, the styleside beds even share inner wall parts between 1973-1996. Only the outer sides and rear stake pockets are different. Some people make 1973-1979 beds out of 1980-1996 beds by welding and swapping bedsides.
Only a few exceptions. 1973-1979 F-350 [Super] Camper specials, and F-350 Trailer Specials with 140" wheelbase, and F-250 4x4's between 1973- and mid year 1977 are different.
So most 1973-1979 beds are interchangeable easily with 1980-1996. Same width length and wheelbases.
For completion sake, the styleside beds even share inner wall parts between 1973-1996. Only the outer sides and rear stake pockets are different. Some people make 1973-1979 beds out of 1980-1996 beds by welding and swapping bedsides.
Only a few exceptions. 1973-1979 F-350 [Super] Camper specials, and F-350 Trailer Specials with 140" wheelbase, and F-250 4x4's between 1973- and mid year 1977 are different.
So most 1973-1979 beds are interchangeable easily with 1980-1996. Same width length and wheelbases.
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This is not a super "high budget" classic car restoration type project, so I wont be spending a mint on collectable parts or fancy reproductions. I bought the flareside bed for 150$, and i still need to find a tailgate. I have a few ideas on how to stretch my bed if I have to, might start a "bed build thread" separate from the truck build thread on this forum since the IDI crowd isn't too into flares LOL.*
P.S. I just looked at the pictures again, and I guess your bedside height will have to be the same as your later shortbed you have so everything will match up(tailgate and front piece).
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Planning out and making bedsides is a ton of work. I wouldn't doubt if you have close to a grand into them when done. You'll still need locations of all the weld studs, and mount holes (which I found to be a pain).
Most of your "basic" shops won't be able to do the full curl (takes specialized tooling). That's one of the reasons I built mine the way I did. They will also need a deep-throat spot welder to weld in all the studs.
This is as far as you can go with "basic" tooling for making the curl.
I had to do it in two pieces, and as you can see, I just changed it and enclosed the whole thing.
You could also try bump-forming the curled edges, but I don't think it's going to turn out right. Once you get over half way, the material will get in the way of the tooling.
Just something to think about. They look pretty basic, but are a pain to make.
Most of your "basic" shops won't be able to do the full curl (takes specialized tooling). That's one of the reasons I built mine the way I did. They will also need a deep-throat spot welder to weld in all the studs.
This is as far as you can go with "basic" tooling for making the curl.
I had to do it in two pieces, and as you can see, I just changed it and enclosed the whole thing.
You could also try bump-forming the curled edges, but I don't think it's going to turn out right. Once you get over half way, the material will get in the way of the tooling.
Just something to think about. They look pretty basic, but are a pain to make.
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Thanks Explorer and ChopTop! That is some really useful information for me, both of you. I'm thinking I'll at least do a thorough junkyard search for 73+ eight footer, but if not maybe I can find a second short box that I could use to extend mine. If I go the splice route, I will probably cap the bed rails with diamond plate, and hide the splice behind the fender flares as much as possible. Again, thanks for your help guys!
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What did I find here?
What did I find here? Now I am thoroughly confused. This is a 1974 USFS truck that obviously has the original, factory bed attached, the way it was ordered from Ford. It has slanted bed rails. It is 8' long. It is 54" wide and has the inner fender wells. Thinking it might work for me. I'm starting to think also that slanted vs. flat bed rails could just be a matter of how far they are bent over. Looks to me like one could cut and "square off" the post pockets and bend the rails to 90* instead of 45*? Possible? I'm thinking of going back to the junkyard today and picking this up and playing with it for my bed build. Fenders are shot, steps not great, but bedsides and deck metal are decent.*
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I would get that bed if I were you.
1974 model? They could have still been using backstock of 1972 and older beds for the 8' flaresides. Ford did something similar for the 1961-1962 models using 1960 and older styleside beds on trucks that were not unibody.
Ford discontinued the 6' flaresides for 1973-1976 models, so there were no "flat bed rail" 6 footers until 1977.
This could be the reason for the slant vs flat...
1974 model? They could have still been using backstock of 1972 and older beds for the 8' flaresides. Ford did something similar for the 1961-1962 models using 1960 and older styleside beds on trucks that were not unibody.
Ford discontinued the 6' flaresides for 1973-1976 models, so there were no "flat bed rail" 6 footers until 1977.
This could be the reason for the slant vs flat...
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