2001 truck. I have been having no start 'clicking' on my truck every now and then.It will always start when this happens after a try or two. Not batts, not cables, new fender solenoids. Pulled the starter off and took it to two different places to get checked out. Both places said that starter is 'fine' but the solenoid on it seems to be not engaging has hard as it should every time.
At both places I asked for a new solenoid to put on the starter. Both times they bring out a solenoid that is about 20% larger that the one on my truck. Both places said,'it should fit'.... I then ask for them to 'bring out' a new starter for my truck to compare. The ones they brought out were the same as my two bolt '01. with the smaller solenoid. I said, "take the small solenoid off 'your' starter and I would take it and pay 'you' to put the larger solenoid on 'your' starter. Both places declined.

What does the large solenoid go on? Found out it was for the larger 3 bolt starter. I said order me a two hole starter solenoid. Neither place could find a place or number to order me the two hole starter solenoid. Both suggested that there is not any after market for the solenoids, but there is one for the whole two hole starter???? One place suggested getting the original Ford number that goes with the solenoid and then they could order it. My starter was rebuilt a couple of years ago and I damaged the solenoid at that time, so it was replaced. That re-builder is no longer in business so I can not go back to them .

Does anyone know this part number and where can I get the correct solenoid? Will the three hole starter bolt up ok in place of the two hole starter. If I have to switch them out I might as well get the bigger starter.
The cost was higher for my smaller two hole starter than the bigger three hole. It all sounds jacked... What do you guys say?

 

I'll post a link to a site that should have them when I get home.

 

Thanks for the reply

I have been trying to research this all morning. Seems to me that the three bolts starter go from '99-'00. The two bolt starters for the 7.3s are '01-'03. Both will fit for all 7.3 years of '99-'03. what looks to be coming up is that the solenoid that may go on my two bolt starter goes from the years 2001-2008. This will cover the 7.3s and the 6.0s. Are the starters the same and will fit or (maybe) just the solenoids???

So should I go back to the parts store and ask for a 6.0 starter mounted solenoid? Wonder if I could ask for a 6.0 starter and compare the price of the 7.3s?

 

The solenoids between two-bolt and three-bolt should not interchange,

The three-bolt units are Mitsubishi-designed, with planetary gear-reduction. Those starters are most-likely to completely recover their abilities with a simple solenoid change.

The two-bolt units are NipponDenso designed, and are off-set gear-reduction types.

As you can see, they are completely different, and should not be expected to interchange.

Here's a page from Nation's web site with repair stuff for Denso solenoids.
Denso Starter Contacts, starter repair kits, starter solenoid parts, solenoid contacts, starter repair

You might give 'em a call.

Pop

 

My 2001 is OEM equipped with the 3 bolt Mitsubishi. I had to look it up as a 2000 to find the correct parts for it.

 

Thanks Pop.
Tried to call them to order, but closed today. Will give them a ring as soon as they are open. Why take my starter to a re-builder when I can do it my self?


Reps to you And mueckster.

Nasty Rep Police will not let me Rep either one of you Brothers. Two thumbs up though

Thanks guys

Have a safe and great New Years to all of our FTE Brothers.

 

'Mark', from the 6.0 Forum gave me this reply when I asked about the solenoids on the 7.3 and 6.0 two bolt starters, if they were the same and what is the part number.


I believe it is the same as the 01 - 03 7.3L's

Part # 6C2Z-11002-AA

 

My sentiments, EGGS-AKTLY!

Pop

 

Posted by my new friend Josh on the 6.0 forum .

Ford 6.0



2001+ 7.3



2001+ 7.3 2 Bolt



94-2000 7.3 3 Bolt




Josh
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6.0 and 01+ 7.3 starter solenoid


7.3 3 bolt Mitsubishi starter solenoid


They look the same on the outside, but attach differently on the inside. 6.0 and 7.3 2 bolt Nippondenso should take the same solenoid.

 

Les,

Two of those starters pictured look suspiciously alike.

Do you, perchance, have their Lester numbers?

Pop

 

I did a little CSI work.
Here are the sources of the pics: O'Reilly's website
I searched them using the '99 and '01 7.3 applications.

The first 3 bolt Mitsu starter pic (enlarged image) came from here: UltimaŽ Select 35154 - Starter | O'Reilly Auto Parts

The second one came from here: Motorcraft SA817RM - Starter | O'Reilly Auto Parts

Based on what we know, so far, the 2001 year model 7.3 trucks could have a 3 bolt Mitsubishi (like mine) or 2 bolt Nippondenso (like Les).
Look here for Amazon.com: 7.3 nippondenso starter solenoid and a plunger/contact repair kit for the 2 bolt Denso.

 

As I thought.

Though they may be different sources, different manufacturers, and different quality parts in them, they are both the Mitsu design, planetary-gear types.

Could be used interchangeably, but with probably different long-term results.

What I find funny is the genuine Motorcraft unit is a limited one-year warranty, and the Chinese knock-off is limited lifetime.

Warranty doesn't matter to me. What I really want is reliability!

What's harder to know is whether they come off the same assembly line or not.

Pop

 

I have a Mitsu starter that was given to me. It was a new NAPA 3 bolt that was installed for a short time on a company truck that my friend was working on until it was discovered that the ring gear on the flexplate had some bad teeth. Both the starter and flexplate were changed out, together, to insure no further problems. I purchased a new pinion gear (old one has some burrs on the teeth), as a precaution, and will be installing it on my "new" starter to keep as a spare.

 

You guys are the best . It may now look that I really don't need to:
A. Buy a new starter (200.00 +)
B. Buy a new solenoid (30.00 +)

Just go straight to;
C. Get a plunger/contact repair kit for the 2 bolt Denso. (around 15.00)
and fix the contacts.

These pages need to be book marked for "Starter Info and Repair"