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Old 08-17-2012, 09:57 PM
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Trail graps or Toyo mt?

Help me decide between nitto's or toyos. I'm looking at the 315/60R20 in toyo and 295/65R20 in trail graps. I have always ran toyos but I'm worried about the 60psi max on the toyos. I tow a 5th wheel so I'm concerned about them swaying too much. What r ur thoughts?
 
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I have the 295/65/20 Nitto Trails on my truck. Love them. Can't beat the look of this size. I vote Nitto. Plus the load rating is huge.
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:05 PM
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Are the 60 psi toyo's E rated?
My vote is the Nitto Trails.
I currently have Nitto Terra's and these are even great tires.
 
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They r both E rated but the Nitto's have a bit higher weight rating.
 
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I have 35's and run 65 psi in my Toyo's and I don't have any issues towing. I tow frequently...from our enclosed 4 wheeler trailer to our 5th wheel. Neither trailer is light and both are freaking box kites. The Toyo's sidewalls are pretty massive. I don't think they flex much at all.

That being said, I'm going to go back to Trails this winter only because I think the Trails perform a bit better in the winter than the Toyo's. It's a catch 22 because the Toyo's perform slightly better pulling off road (which I do a lot of as well). Below is the spec sheet for the Toyo's you are referring to...confirming they are 65 psi.

The tires you are looking at are "E" rated for 65 psi. Not ideal, but I run them and my only beef is the Trails are better in winter and I need tires Both tires are pretty good and you won't be disappointed with either.
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:35 PM
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Do you run the 315's or 35's? I know they r basically the same but the 35's r a bit wider.
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:39 PM
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I state that I'm running 35's in my first sentence and they are in my signature???
 
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Sorry. They r both considered 35's by Toyo so I was just trying to clarify. What made u choose the 35's over the 315's? Just trying to pick the right tires before I drop down all that $!
 
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Toyo calls them by their size, 315 and 35's because while their diameter is the same, their width is different as you pointed out. I need the extra width for flotation off road. We do a lot of 4 wheeling and the truck pulls a heavy trailer through dirt, mud and sand to get us to where we ride our ATV's. If you don't do A LOT of off road driving, you are better off with a narrower tire. You'll get better mileage and have more grip in rain and snow.
 
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The trail grappler mileage sucks. Mike has 7500 miles on his and the rears are almost half gone and the fronts only have 3/32 more than the rears. I was very surprised to see how much his front tires have worn in 7500 of being on the front axle. Not looking good. His are 285/55/22.

Mine (35x12.50/20) are wearing a bit better but there's noticeable wear after 4500 miles. Not looking good to get more than 20,000 out of a set. I'm thinking about ditching the grapplers and trying the toyos.
 
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The trail grappler mileage sucks. Mike has 7500 miles on his and the rears are almost half gone and the fronts only have 3/32 more than the rears. I was very surprised to see how much his front tires have worn in 7500 of being on the front axle. Not looking good. His are 285/55/22.

Mine (35x12.50/20) are wearing a bit better but there's noticeable wear after 4500 miles. Not looking good to get more than 20,000 out of a set. I'm thinking about ditching the grapplers and trying the toyos.
I had no issues getting 35k of my Trails. That tunned monster must eat tires. I only got 30k. out of these Toyo's.
 
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:11 AM
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Tuned or not, what's that got to do with the front tires?
 
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Tuned or not, what's that got to do with the front tires?
I would think the fronts do end up in the back when you rotate them?
 
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:31 AM
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They will once rotated, yes. My point was the amount of wear from only being on the front.
 
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These are my grapplers after about 26k miles. Great tires, but they wear quick. These trucks eat tires like candy. I'm thinking bfg all terrains next.
 


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