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Old 07-27-2012, 09:47 PM
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ELC and front cover failure

I was getting a labor quote on my major upgrade project today, and after I figured there was no way in hell I could afford to pay them $2k dollars we switched to some 6.0L small talk. When I mentioned how getting rid of the Ford Gold coolant was the best thing any owner could do, their top dog 6.0 Mechanic chimed in that ELC will cavitate and drill a hole in the front cover in no time. So if his statement is true I think we are all screwed. Will a coolant filter remove the Ford Gold silicates or do we just need to decide which is easier to replace, a front cover or an oil cooler. I hope he's just seeing some other cause of front cover failures.
 
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I am running gold. But my initial hunch is if ELC punched a hole in front covers the guys on this forum would know it. Since a bunch of them regularly recommend ELC or gold, and recommend factory stuff on some things (like head gaskets) but after market things on others (like ARP studs) if there was that much of a problem they wouldn't use it.... let alone recommend it. Also consider we have several diesel mechanics that regularly post....
 
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15k ON ELC NO Front Cover Holes Yet LOL

a 50/50% MIX is a Must to Avoid Cavitation


Its when a Guy gets A coolant leak Puts Off Fixing it and Keeps adding Water then they Cavitate FAST
 
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AND what does International say/use ?
I think I would be more willing to go with
what they say after all it's there baby.

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Excellent Point^^^^^^^^^^^^ Forgot that

International Uses ELC called Fleetrite

And Has HAD FEWER Oil Cooler Failures

I researched All this^^ Before I Went ELC

Fleetrite Does Have Silicates Few although

Final Charge the Stuff In my Sig Below is ELC CAT EC-1 Thats Silicate FREE good to 600,000miles only needs a Recharge at 300K
 
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Originally Posted by chetspencer
I was getting a labor quote on my major upgrade project today, and after I figured there was no way in hell I could afford to pay them $2k dollars we switched to some 6.0L small talk. When I mentioned how getting rid of the Ford Gold coolant was the best thing any owner could do, their top dog 6.0 Mechanic chimed in that ELC will cavitate and drill a hole in the front cover in no time. So if his statement is true I think we are all screwed. Will a coolant filter remove the Ford Gold silicates or do we just need to decide which is easier to replace, a front cover or an oil cooler. I hope he's just seeing some other cause of front cover failures.


I wouldnt ever Go Back to that Shop LOL
 
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I wouldnt ever Go Back to that Shop LOL
Actually if I could afford it, I would trust this kid to wrench on my truck. There will always be issues that people feel certain about. I'm sticking with ELC (until my front cover springs a leak).
 
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Actually if I could afford it, I would trust this kid to wrench on my truck. There will always be issues that people feel certain about. I'm sticking with ELC (until my front cover springs a leak).

Im with Ya on that

How many had this Guy seen that ELC Blew a Hole in front Cover???
 
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
Im with Ya on that

How many had this Guy seen that ELC Blew a Hole in front Cover???
Enough to make me post this thread, this was the second time him and I discussed this. He was at the front counter when I went to buy my Delo ELC a while back, and he was trying to tell me to stick with the Gold.

One thing to keep in mind this guy really is a kid, maybe in his mid 20's, so he's still wet around the ears.
 
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I see

If he found one with the RED ELC in it and a Hole in the front cover Then Odds Are it was the Owner Messed it up not the ELC IMO

Iv seen folks with a Leak fill with water all summer no coolant till winter

The Problem is They RUST Very Fast within 24 hours with water or weak mix

You Literaly have to VC-9 the cooling system flush it clear and get 50/50 mix in it ASAP that Day or leave the system Drained
 
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Do you see any problem with running a bit heavy on the ELC. I put 4 gallons of in my Ex. I do have a huge coolant filter that hold about 2 extra quarts.
 
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Do you have the back heater?
With some coolants too much can be as bad as too little.
If your in the range for the % you will be ok. Not sure what
reading you should get with a refractometer but that would
be the way to make sure you in the range if it will work with
the gold stuff and I just read some where that it won't.
How ever I did find this little item
Amazon.com: Cool-Trak 311519 Coolant Testing Strips - Set of 50: Automotive

Sean
 
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Yes, I have the rear heater, and thanks for the link. I read some of the reviews and one customer states the test strips are only good for old fashion green coolant. I will be checking into this further though.
 
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I got that link from a Mustang GT site and they were talking about it being useful
to check the Ford gold. But really did not go in to it very deep and read all.
There has to be some thing to test it.

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I run a Bit strong to 3.75Gal Full strength

I wouldnt go over 4 Gal AFAIK Straight antifreeze will Freeze but IDK if anything else would happen
 


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