building up the 410...
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building up the 410...
soo, its time to start ordering parts and get ready to rebuild the 410. but still undecided on a few things, like the appropriate compression ratio, pistons/rods, rockers, and so on.
really just lookin for ideas and opinions at the moment.
i have allready done the performance bolt ons, name it it is probably there, or at least under my bed.
so first big question: compression ratio! what to shoot for,what i dont want to go above.
running pump gas is a must.
truck is a 4wd f-100 will have 33" tires. no towing, just playing/ daily driver and some more playing!!!
really just lookin for ideas and opinions at the moment.
i have allready done the performance bolt ons, name it it is probably there, or at least under my bed.
so first big question: compression ratio! what to shoot for,what i dont want to go above.
running pump gas is a must.
truck is a 4wd f-100 will have 33" tires. no towing, just playing/ daily driver and some more playing!!!
#3
Since you said pump gas is a must, I'd say the CR needs to no higher than 10.5:1, or you could run into pinging issues. Even at 10.5, you're going to need the timing curve dialed in just right.
The good news is, stock 410/390 truck pistons will get you into that ballpark on stock 390/410 rods.
Going over 10.5:1 CR can be done, and keep it on pump gas, but it usually needs the upper end stuff.
The good news is, stock 410/390 truck pistons will get you into that ballpark on stock 390/410 rods.
Going over 10.5:1 CR can be done, and keep it on pump gas, but it usually needs the upper end stuff.
#4
Stock 410s were 10.5, so your head gasket and cc volume, and IF those pistons are made the same will determine what you end up with.
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ok so at the moment i am looking at
Probe pistons about 10.4:1 (30 over)
Scat H-beam rods
Comp cams XE274H
Holley off road carb, 670 or 770 cfm... still undecided
oh! rocker arms i forgot! roller or not???
i donthave any experience w/ rollers, are they reliable? who to stay away from, whats the best choice?
should i look into a new flywheel? or is the old stocker just fine?
Probe pistons about 10.4:1 (30 over)
Scat H-beam rods
Comp cams XE274H
Holley off road carb, 670 or 770 cfm... still undecided
oh! rocker arms i forgot! roller or not???
i donthave any experience w/ rollers, are they reliable? who to stay away from, whats the best choice?
should i look into a new flywheel? or is the old stocker just fine?
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ok so at the moment i am looking at
Probe pistons about 10.4:1 (30 over)
Scat H-beam rods
Comp cams XE274H
Holley off road carb, 670 or 770 cfm... still undecided
oh! rocker arms i forgot! roller or not???
i donthave any experience w/ rollers, are they reliable? who to stay away from, whats the best choice?
should i look into a new flywheel? or is the old stocker just fine?
Probe pistons about 10.4:1 (30 over)
Scat H-beam rods
Comp cams XE274H
Holley off road carb, 670 or 770 cfm... still undecided
oh! rocker arms i forgot! roller or not???
i donthave any experience w/ rollers, are they reliable? who to stay away from, whats the best choice?
should i look into a new flywheel? or is the old stocker just fine?
#11
Roller rockers are not a must in my opinion as well. As for carb definitely go with the 670!!!!
I had a new 770 TA on my 428 with similar parts and compression and it had a major top end flat spot where it lagged. Holley tech said the motor I had was too small and didn't have enough velocity to pick up the ball in the metering block. Even the 770 comes with a 2.5 powervalve setup for an extreme cam.
They suggested a 670 and now it's a whole new animal. Good power through all rpm range.
Good luck!
I had a new 770 TA on my 428 with similar parts and compression and it had a major top end flat spot where it lagged. Holley tech said the motor I had was too small and didn't have enough velocity to pick up the ball in the metering block. Even the 770 comes with a 2.5 powervalve setup for an extreme cam.
They suggested a 670 and now it's a whole new animal. Good power through all rpm range.
Good luck!
#12
I concur. Unless you're going to winding it pretty tight, the H beam rods and roller rockers would just be bragging rights. Costly ones at that.
#13
My stock ones should be fine and the shop took a few hundred bucks off bill
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