external oil cooler
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10-09-2012, 12:28 AM
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hi.
im finally gonna be putting my 6.0 back together soon
and am seriously considering the ipr remote oil cooler.
IPR External Oil Cooler Kit for Ford 6.0 Powerstroke
anyone running this yet?
a lot of debate about external oil coolers out there but
this is the second time im replacing mine and seems
like a good idea..
im finally gonna be putting my 6.0 back together soon
and am seriously considering the ipr remote oil cooler.
IPR External Oil Cooler Kit for Ford 6.0 Powerstroke
anyone running this yet?
a lot of debate about external oil coolers out there but
this is the second time im replacing mine and seems
like a good idea..
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#48
10-09-2012, 12:51 AM
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Did anyone happen to see this little part?
IPR Coolant Manifold
I would like to know if you can use it with the EGR cooler still in place.
Sean
IPR Coolant Manifold
I would like to know if you can use it with the EGR cooler still in place.
Sean
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10-09-2012, 12:59 AM
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The fella said it had to do with the way he had the coolant filter set up before the oil cooler (to prevent plugging up the oil cooler). Apparently it plugs up the filter limiting the flow of coolant to the the oil cooler and increasing the deltas. I am still waiting to see if he got it figured out. I would think that just flushing the cooling system out well and cleaning that coolant filter a few times should fix things up for him.
Most of my customers on powerstroke.org have posted pics of their coolant filter just after 200-500 miles.
The coolant manifold was designed specifically for truck with EGR coolers.
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10-09-2012, 01:06 AM
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In the short amount of time this kit was released there are more videos and photo's of actual oil temp delta's, and full engine operation from several data loggers that tell the whole story, articles and data provided by several third party sources. I have yet seen any photo shots or videos of the other kit on the market with real world live video. Am I missing something here or you folks just a tough crowd?
#51
10-09-2012, 01:13 AM
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How do you know when it is plugging up and the flow is getting
way too low for the EGR cooler to be safe? I know I could come
up wit ha flow gauge that would work well. But do you have
something ?
Sean
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10-09-2012, 01:13 AM
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What I've found is that most high spread deltas are caused by oil temp sensors mounted in the wrong place or oil hoses hooked up incorrectly where the sensor is reading the oil temps before the it's cooled.
Coolant restriction from clogged oil coolers or insufficient coolant flow caused by the cooling system from the vehicle.
Bad or defective oil coolers.
In a nutshell IPR external oil cooler kit is simple, it's just an OEM oil cooler mounted externally allowing the coolant to be filtered before it enters the oil cooler and allow the owner to service or replace a oil cooler in as little as 20 mintues should a oil cooler need to be serviced. Not rocket science, we all know the Ford OEM oil cooler works, the engineering to make everything work with all the OEM components is rocket science.
Coolant restriction from clogged oil coolers or insufficient coolant flow caused by the cooling system from the vehicle.
Bad or defective oil coolers.
In a nutshell IPR external oil cooler kit is simple, it's just an OEM oil cooler mounted externally allowing the coolant to be filtered before it enters the oil cooler and allow the owner to service or replace a oil cooler in as little as 20 mintues should a oil cooler need to be serviced. Not rocket science, we all know the Ford OEM oil cooler works, the engineering to make everything work with all the OEM components is rocket science.
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#54
10-09-2012, 01:31 AM
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But if you only do a High flow filter(can you do that?) And don't
want to low flow the EGR cooler. You would need some way to
tell when the pressure differential is increasing to a problem point.
Now that I think about it you could still go by the deltas because
it would act the same as a plugged oil cooler. It may just happen
faster if the filter is finer that the cooler passages.
Hmm... Did I just answer my own question with that ? Maybe.
But a flow gauge would be nice.
Sean
want to low flow the EGR cooler. You would need some way to
tell when the pressure differential is increasing to a problem point.
Now that I think about it you could still go by the deltas because
it would act the same as a plugged oil cooler. It may just happen
faster if the filter is finer that the cooler passages.
Hmm... Did I just answer my own question with that ? Maybe.
But a flow gauge would be nice.
Sean
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10-09-2012, 01:59 AM
This video was shot on the 5SB coming from Castaic. Starting at Wiley Canyon is the grade that leads up to the 14 interchange and into the San Fernando Valley.
Coming from Castaic it's a slight decend, starting from Magic Mtn Parkway just before you hit Lyons is a grade, from Lyon to Wiley Canyon is fairly flat, then from Wiley Canyon up to to the 14 interchange is where this video was shot. Oil temps do start to climb when approaching the hills starting at Magic Mtn parkway, although there are a few flat spots there are more uphills than flat. Towing a load on the flats still makes the oil temps stay higher than normal because of the load. In reality the truck never really gets much of a cool down going down hill and running the flats while towing. The effects of running uphill and towing the trailer puts more load on the oil than it has a chance to cool down for that short amount of time when the truck is going down hill and running on the flats.
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Coming from Castaic it's a slight decend, starting from Magic Mtn Parkway just before you hit Lyons is a grade, from Lyon to Wiley Canyon is fairly flat, then from Wiley Canyon up to to the 14 interchange is where this video was shot. Oil temps do start to climb when approaching the hills starting at Magic Mtn parkway, although there are a few flat spots there are more uphills than flat. Towing a load on the flats still makes the oil temps stay higher than normal because of the load. In reality the truck never really gets much of a cool down going down hill and running the flats while towing. The effects of running uphill and towing the trailer puts more load on the oil than it has a chance to cool down for that short amount of time when the truck is going down hill and running on the flats.
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on the "easy side" of the pass.... that should tell us all we'd
really need to know, and save us a fair bit of fuel... going
all the way over and down to the central valley to climb up
again will be a fuel hog.
this thursday i've got zero work booked, and would be able
to do it midmorning after traffic backs off.... i could use
it as a shabby excuse to go for lunch at brent's in northridge.
as for my temps and deltas up the pass, i dunno... haven't
done that trip since the rebuild.... we shall find out....
BPD's cooler on the van doesn't get as good airflow as the
trucks get, but then again, it doesn't dump the heat out
in front of the main radiator either..... i have yet, under
any situation, have either oil or coolant hit 200 degrees
yet, but i haven't done a long hard pull, so i'm curious.
my rolling weight is 10,500#, so i've got enough weight to
load the motor enough to heat it up. i'll be running zero
programming, so it'll be stock. if your weight is somewhere
around there, it'd be an interesting comparison.
i'll send you my cellphone by PM.
randy
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10-09-2012, 08:31 PM
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I guess I am starting to see the point of this kit. It seems more a way to be able to filter the coolant before it gets to the oil cooler and allow 100% filtration while moving the oil cooler out from its original spot making it easier to change in the future not to mention allowing it to run cooler. It takes a lot of reading and a lot of pictures to understand how the kit works exactly. The BPD kit is entirely too expensive, not to mention you loose the coolant's ability to help warm the engine when cold. This isn't a problem if you can always plug the truck in, but when you're on vacation you don't always have that option. This kit should work correctly with an EGR delete, correct?
#60
10-09-2012, 11:52 PM
I guess I am starting to see the point of this kit. It seems more a way to be able to filter the coolant before it gets to the oil cooler and allow 100% filtration while moving the oil cooler out from its original spot making it easier to change in the future not to mention allowing it to run cooler. It takes a lot of reading and a lot of pictures to understand how the kit works exactly. The BPD kit is entirely too expensive, not to mention you loose the coolant's ability to help warm the engine when cold. This isn't a problem if you can always plug the truck in, but when you're on vacation you don't always have that option. This kit should work correctly with an EGR delete, correct?
from the oil when it's 110 degrees. ;-p
a liquid/liquid heat exchanger is going to be inherently more
efficient than a liquid/air exchanger.
as for slowing the engine warming, the air exchanger has a t stat
to let the oil warm up....
for the canadians, you can always come to yuma for the winter, 'eh?