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Old 02-08-2012, 05:35 PM
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What is my GCWR

I found decal on door jam & it lists Front GAWR 5200 lbs, Rear GAWR 6084 lbs, & GVWR 8800 lbs. I need to know what the trucks Gross Combined Weight Rating is to verify a 5er that shows 11,300 lbs. Thanks for any help.
 
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There are a lot of variables. Engine, cab, gears, type of trailer, etc. There are tables in your Owner's Manual. However, assuming from you're sig that it is a 6.0L, I believe in '04 it's 20k.

Get your Owner's Manual here. If you have the diesel, I think it'll be in the Diesel Supplement.

https://owner.ford.com/servlet/Conte...ionalEventPage
 
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Thanks David. It was all right there. It says the GVWR is 20K. The bad thing is it shows Max trailer weight is 10,600 lbs. Mine is 11,300 lbs. I guess I messed up & took the word of the RV salesman back in '05 when I bought used 5er.
 
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Is the 11,300 dry weight or is that all loaded up?

Your truck will pull that trailer. Technically it's over GCVR, but if you have good brakes and a good controller, and the trailer isn't too front heavy, you'll be fine.

I've pulled at high as 15.5k but I wouldn't want to do that every day. I've pulled 13k without any trouble. Both were a gooseneck.
 
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Originally Posted by RickBraden
Thanks David. It was all right there. It says the GVWR is 20K. The bad thing is it shows Max trailer weight is 10,600 lbs. Mine is 11,300 lbs. I guess I messed up & took the word of the RV salesman back in '05 when I bought used 5er.
Always good to get the actual weight. You may be pleasantly surprized.

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I've pulled it to Orlando & back in 05 & it was like a dream. I will take it to a scale before I trade in for lighter one. I just remember the tag on trailer was 11,300 lbs. I'm not sure what the label said. I'll double check it. Thank you both.
 
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I've pulled it to Orlando & back in 05 & it was like a dream. I will take it to a scale before I trade in for lighter one. I just remember the tag on trailer was 11,300 lbs. I'm not sure what the label said. I'll double check it. Thank you both.
Outside tag is gross vehicle weight rating, i.e. max weight. Not everyone runs at their max.

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Max trailer weight is 10,600 lbs.
2004 FORD SUPER DUTY SPECIFICATIONS


It's that low 8800# GVWR that gets you on those years, early F250's were severely under-rated trucks. I've pulled more than 25k combined with an '04 F250, but like David said, not an all-day-everyday, or even a comfortable situation, just a must-do involving live animals in a trailer. Come in under all the axle and GVW limits and drive smart.
 
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Thanks for the GTW. I will weigh trailer like it usually is & weigh to make sure I don't exceed the Gross Rear Axle Rating.
 
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I think with what you've said so far you are OK. You should check to make sure you aren't over your rear axle rating and make sure you're running properly inflated load range E tires.

What I found was too much weight at the front of the trailer made the truck sag in the rear and it didn't drive as well. If the truck is mostly level you're in good shape. If it's sagging and you aren't over the rear axle weight rating, then consider air bags to help level the truck out.
 
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David, Funny you mention the air springs. I bought a set for my truck about 2 months ago. Still in the box cause I workmostly 7 days a week. I will put them on before I tow it. Then I'll weigh the axles & the 5er. Thanks & take care. Rick
 
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What I do and did was check my axle ratings and tire ratings and GCVWR.

Stay within all those and you are fine.

find the nearest cat scale and get your certified wt ticket and stick it in the glove box

CAT Scale
 
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8,800 + 11,300 = 20,100


With that trailer, your GCVWR is 20,100#

The issue is with the pin weight. If the weight of your pickup + the pin weight is more than 8,800# you break your GVWR.
 
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You are correct. I'm hoping I don't exceed the 8800 # with with 5er connected. My 5er is a nice used unit I got in '05. It was built in about '93. It has one big long slide-out. I bet the newer ones are probably lighter & more costly.
 
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I have also read that the GCVWR is not a legal number but a suggestion number by ford in the owners manual , The legal number and what the dot looks at is the numbers on the door concerning your front and rear axle weights and your vehicle GVWR which in your case is 8800.
 


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