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Old 02-06-2012, 04:33 PM
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HID debate

Love em, or Hate em... The Debate is on. Have at it fellar's


I like them.. Here is what my 5000 color temp looks like.
 
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:54 PM
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I think mine are 6k's and low beam only. Fogs have Sylvania XtraVision 9007 bulb's. I love my HID's and plan to upgrade them to H/L beam soon.

 
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If I ever go HID, this is what I will spring for: F250 -- HID Projector Headlight Retrofit for Subaru, Honda, BMW, Scion and More | LightWerkz.net

I won't disagree with you guys that the OEM housings throw out the HID light adequately, I just personally like the look of projectors. I must also add that with projectors, I feel that the lights will not be done half-assed.

If no HIDs, I will go for upgraded wiring and some non-blue tinted halogen bulbs such as the Philip Xtreme Visions.

Question: Why don't you guys go with the less ricer looking 4300K color temperature? That is what most OEM HID offerings use.
 
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:08 PM
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Actually, the 6k's are what were on my X when I bought it a couple of weeks ago. My plan is to get the H/L 4300's because of the light output vs color. You would not believe the looks that my X gets with the setup now though. Granted it is the best looking X in the area for sure.
 
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TrdLtly
Actually, the 6k's are what were on my X when I bought it a couple of weeks ago. My plan is to get the H/L 4300's because of the light output vs color. You would not believe the looks that my X gets with the setup now though. Granted it is the best looking X in the area for sure.
That is good to hear...6Ks are pure ricer

The 5Ks that High Intentions has look good too, but 4300's still win when it comes to light output.
 
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:21 PM
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If I ever go HID, this is what I will spring for: F250 -- HID Projector Headlight Retrofit for Subaru, Honda, BMW, Scion and More | LightWerkz.net

I won't disagree with you guys that the OEM housings throw out the HID light adequately, I just personally like the look of projectors. I must also add that with projectors, I feel that the lights will not be done half-assed.

If no HIDs, I will go for upgraded wiring and some non-blue tinted halogen bulbs such as the Philip Xtreme Visions.

Question: Why don't you guys go with the less ricer looking 4300K color temperature? That is what most OEM HID offerings use.
Good call dude! I dropped the coin on Lightwerkz's retrofit for my wrx a while ago and it was worth every penny. I'll search the nasioc forum for my thread on it and i'll link it in here. The setup i ran before the hid retro was new oem housings, philips xtreme visions and a relayed harness. The harness is what really tied it all together because it allowed the bulbs to draw power directly from the battery with as little loss as possible.
As far as HID color temps goes, from what i understand, 4100-4300 is oem color temp due to the truest (is that a real word?) white and best visibility.
 
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Mine are 5K's as well and in real life look very white, not sure where the blueish tint comes from in the pics, could be the garage door. 4300's look a bit too yellow to me.



 
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I had 4300's in my 2000 factory style headlight and is one of my fav's. When I went tp the 05 headlight had to get the newer style bulb. The set up I went with only went down to 5000. The 4300 has a very slight hint of yellow to it. Some outfits say 4300 is pure white others say 6000 in pure white?? I have seen some ricers around here with blue almost purple.. Don't know how they are able to see with those?
 
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Here are 2 more with the full spectrum

I chose 5K based on these charts and I am happy to say they are very white.



 
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Originally Posted by aortizexcursion
If I ever go HID, this is what I will spring for: F250 -- HID Projector Headlight Retrofit for Subaru, Honda, BMW, Scion and More | LightWerkz.net

I won't disagree with you guys that the OEM housings throw out the HID light adequately, I just personally like the look of projectors. I must also add that with projectors, I feel that the lights will not be done half-assed.

If no HIDs, I will go for upgraded wiring and some non-blue tinted halogen bulbs such as the Philip Xtreme Visions.

Question: Why don't you guys go with the less ricer looking 4300K color temperature? That is what most OEM HID offerings use.
Most of E-bay seller do not have 4300K light for 9007 as of yet. A few years ago, they didn't even have anything less than 6000K at a reasonable price. I saw lately they have improve on their light bulbs selection and the size of the ballast has been reduce in size.
 
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:37 PM
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When I got my 9007 HID setup I did a sreach for 4300 9007 and a had a couple of pages come up.
 
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The 4300 was an option for me as well. Same seller as Eric used. Offered up to 10K but recommended not going higher than 6K for street use.
 
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bigwhitetruck, I will post the link to the NASIOC thread you posted in the other thread about HIDs here on FTE. In that thread, it says that the cars with HIDs from the factory have color temperature between 4100 and 4300. That thread is old however so is that color temp still the standard that the OEMs use? From a quick google search, the 4300s will have higher lumens than the 5000s but will you actually notice it?...depends really. From the quick reading on other threads, posters say that in projectors, the color difference cannot really be seen. Don't know if that holds true with non-projector setups. Here are the threads I read and the google search:
Thread bigwhitetruck posted:
The HID FAQ Thread - Read before posting your questions - NASIOC
 
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:18 PM
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This has a pic of the cutoff from the setup in my car.
LightWerkz bugeye retrofit - Page 2 - NASIOC

This one goes into detail about glare, beam patterns and a whole bunch of tech stuff that made my brain hurt. Take it for what its worth.
The HID FAQ Thread - Read before posting your questions - Page 12 - NASIOC
 
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Some more good threads:
Some more good info:

4300K (3300lm) -------- BRIGHT WHITE (BRIGHTEST)
5000K (3250lm) -------- INTENSE WHITE
6000K (2800lm) -------- CRYSTAL WHITE
8000K (2550lm) -------- CRYSTAL BLUE
10000K (2300lm) -------- AQUA BLUE
12000K (2100lm) -------- BLUE-PURPLE
14000K (2000lm) -------- PURPLE

Pulled this info from here:
4300k vs. 5000K HID Question - Rennlist Discussion Forums
 


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