Some Holley 1850 600cfm Help...
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Some Holley 1850 600cfm Help...
1975 F250
This carb came with the truck when i bought it.
Having some trouble with it.. Looking for some experiance here.
Ran fine for 2 weeks or so. Then it just started flooding itself. No i cant keep her running she is just dumping fuel.
Looking at what i should do. I have rebuilt a few 2brl carbs. No 4brl though... Is there a better carb out there for my truck?
Thanks guys
This carb came with the truck when i bought it.
Having some trouble with it.. Looking for some experiance here.
Ran fine for 2 weeks or so. Then it just started flooding itself. No i cant keep her running she is just dumping fuel.
Looking at what i should do. I have rebuilt a few 2brl carbs. No 4brl though... Is there a better carb out there for my truck?
Thanks guys
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There are a few things to look at here. One is where is the fuel spilling out at? If it is at the secondary ventury or vent it is that float bowl to work on. If it is the primarys then they need attention, if both are flooding/leaking, probably need to look at fuel pressure.
Next is you can pull the plug out of the side of the float bowl and look at where the fuel level is in the bowl that will answer some questions as well.
Next thing to look at is the needle and seat adjustment screw and lock nut. Is the o-ring and gaskets sealing properly?
I have seen the little clip fall off of the rod that secures the float in the bowl and that causes an unreasonable flooding.
If the float is setproperly or if you adjust the screw and the fuel level doesn't change and the fuel pressure is within spec then you have a float, neddle and seat issue. The only other problem I have seen is the vent gets restricted and then when the engine warms up from being cold the float bowl builds pressure and spits fuel out the ventury. Good luck.
Next is you can pull the plug out of the side of the float bowl and look at where the fuel level is in the bowl that will answer some questions as well.
Next thing to look at is the needle and seat adjustment screw and lock nut. Is the o-ring and gaskets sealing properly?
I have seen the little clip fall off of the rod that secures the float in the bowl and that causes an unreasonable flooding.
If the float is setproperly or if you adjust the screw and the fuel level doesn't change and the fuel pressure is within spec then you have a float, neddle and seat issue. The only other problem I have seen is the vent gets restricted and then when the engine warms up from being cold the float bowl builds pressure and spits fuel out the ventury. Good luck.
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For a functioning power valve yes, You can wire a power valve open and the engine will still idle fine, but if it is blown fuel will travel directly through even without booster signal.
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I go on vacation here shortly and want to tackle this carb issue and get this bad boy back on the road....
Does anyone know of a guide to help me out?
I would love to do this myself at all costs for two reasons.. I learn. and save money.
Please im looking for some help or step by step guidance for whoever has the paitence.. Again thank you
Does anyone know of a guide to help me out?
I would love to do this myself at all costs for two reasons.. I learn. and save money.
Please im looking for some help or step by step guidance for whoever has the paitence.. Again thank you
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Like 73fourxfour said, the Holley website has alot of great info. You can also go to a bookstore and find some great manuals on Holley carbs in the automotive section. I have the same carb as you and knew nothing about them (still really dont) but I recently rejetted the carb and reset the fuel level and wasnt hard at all.
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I have a bunch of Holley books and books on Holleys. Holley's website is good too. They aren't complicated and 30-40 years of screwing with them on most every carbureted car / truck one has owned and many of their bud's vehicles will teach one a lot.
My lone carbed vehicle is my '77 F150 351M, it's had a Holley 1850 on it since 1986. Last year, I swapped on a Edelbrock 1405 600 cfm carb and Holley 12-803 fuel pressure regulator set to 5.5 psi (because of design, float arm length versus float area and all, a Holley will handle 8-9 psi fuel pressure OK while a Edelbrock carb will see the fuel level creep up and rich idling at anything over about 6 psi and stock 351M / 400 fuel pumps will pump a steady 7 psi).
My last Holley is on a shelf with a box with a bunch of Holley parts / gaskets / etc. I can go back easily, but I'm liking this Edelbrock .... and no leaking. Everything else is FI now.
I say either your carb has a brass float that has a leak and may have been dried out when you got it and worked OK, but is now full of fuel and doesn't "float" no more, or trash on the inlet needle or a bad viton tip on the inlet needle. You do have filters in place? I have heard of the solid floats absorbing fuel and also not floating so good, but I've never had it happen to one of mine. With brass floats, you can shake them and hear fuel in it sometimes. With the solid floats, only way to tell is to weigh the suspect float compared to another solid float of same shape / size. Takes a small scale.
Power valve is easily ruptured by a back fire which is why I always install a ball and spring in a drilled passage to shut off the passage in case of a backfire, but even ruptured it will not affect idling nor will it cause fuel to bubble out the top.
Also, I made it a habit to carry spare power valves in correct vac nos., a couple spare accelerator pump diaphrams, and some bowl gaskets. I used only Holley parts if at all possible .... especially in the needle and seat.
Petersens has a good book on Holley carbs for the beginner. Do not stray far from stock jetting, no matter what the local "expert" says.
My lone carbed vehicle is my '77 F150 351M, it's had a Holley 1850 on it since 1986. Last year, I swapped on a Edelbrock 1405 600 cfm carb and Holley 12-803 fuel pressure regulator set to 5.5 psi (because of design, float arm length versus float area and all, a Holley will handle 8-9 psi fuel pressure OK while a Edelbrock carb will see the fuel level creep up and rich idling at anything over about 6 psi and stock 351M / 400 fuel pumps will pump a steady 7 psi).
My last Holley is on a shelf with a box with a bunch of Holley parts / gaskets / etc. I can go back easily, but I'm liking this Edelbrock .... and no leaking. Everything else is FI now.
I say either your carb has a brass float that has a leak and may have been dried out when you got it and worked OK, but is now full of fuel and doesn't "float" no more, or trash on the inlet needle or a bad viton tip on the inlet needle. You do have filters in place? I have heard of the solid floats absorbing fuel and also not floating so good, but I've never had it happen to one of mine. With brass floats, you can shake them and hear fuel in it sometimes. With the solid floats, only way to tell is to weigh the suspect float compared to another solid float of same shape / size. Takes a small scale.
Power valve is easily ruptured by a back fire which is why I always install a ball and spring in a drilled passage to shut off the passage in case of a backfire, but even ruptured it will not affect idling nor will it cause fuel to bubble out the top.
Also, I made it a habit to carry spare power valves in correct vac nos., a couple spare accelerator pump diaphrams, and some bowl gaskets. I used only Holley parts if at all possible .... especially in the needle and seat.
Petersens has a good book on Holley carbs for the beginner. Do not stray far from stock jetting, no matter what the local "expert" says.
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A chilton manual has a good blow up of holley 4 barrel parts breakdown. To get to the floats, take the four screws out of the front of the carb. They are a 5/16 and pretty long. When you look at what comes off, it might open a new door, there isn't that much to worry about in there. I agree use holley parts, take the primary bowl off, look at the float, needle and seat, and cleanliness. I had mine flood out and boil fuel out twice. New needle and seat, new float bowls, and i dismantled it, found nothing wrong, and put it back together, runs like a top. I think it must have had some contamination in the needle that prevented it from closing. Don't give up, if you want to learn, spend some time to get the right materials and read, repair, test and tune. I am 25 years old and have no more than a high school education, but I have shook hands with maybe only 5 people in my life that I felt were better mechanics than myself. I have rebuild 77-79 ford 3/4 ton 4x4s from front to back. the only thing I didn't do was the machining on the engines and the exhaust. I taught myself everything I know, It takes time and patience but in the end the reward is knowlege, the most valuable asset ever posessed.
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